384. Chasing the Tickle Men

And when he says, hey, we're having tickets for a show, you can get it doesn't it's not all like fucking in-your-face podcast blasting. There's nothing bad about talking about this stuff if it's interesting. I had this thing that seems so simple and like sometimes, you know how it is where you get a good thread or a bad thread? There's some sparkling, there's that that wasn't a good one. Oh no. So I downloaded the movie but haven't watched it yet. Now uh imagine me hooking my right index finger under my collar and pulling it to the side like Rodney Dangerville. Yes. But he's like, you know, there's a show, da da da da. I I suppose. Doomer pilled? The smartphone. And Fred the Father, I think we actually I know for a fact, because I've been looking at our titles of episodes all day.

And then there was the weird part of it. Yes. What was the word he used? like how much pressure, how long, ramp up, what kind of mask you're using. I mean it's human readable, but it's gobbledygook unless you know what an A A H I is and why you would or not want it. And now the whole table screwed up and like you find yourself at the wrong part of the stack to solve the problem. Uh oh, so let me get let me get to the point of this, which is the the thing I you know projects. Uh you know there's there's only a certain amount of durability to files you upload where it it I think understandably it kind of f if I upload a two gigabyte So I'm very interested to see when I put stuff in DBF. Well now you can just interact directly with another app on your Mac.

That kind of thing. Uh maybe I'm just So like here's here's um here's Chatty G. And I was just, it was driving me crazy. these things. of the dolls. uh like the i the uh certain types of drugs they're on uh are it's unclear which you i i i in theory like personality. Uh no. I'm not gonna mention friends on this show. Related to Valley of the Dolls. So stressful. Ask why I uh subject myself to the things I uh d do uh online, the things I look at. You know, I just I need a little tickle. He consumes a lot of content. I doesn't it doesn't help if I over-exaggerate it. that it is not a feed drop or c a collaboration or something that you promised your advertising. I suppose you you've I'm not gonna use any cute terminology.

I'm just I'm just disappointed in the way uh the pod save America men represent who or sorry uh uh I'm processing a nonstop 24-7 onslaught of information with a brain designed to eat berries in a cave. Huh. Then people would know what you're talking about. Alex Clark Cox and Merlin man. Said leave this one alone. I got so much going on right here. just be something where people feel put off if they don't like the whole idea or maybe they just don't like the way we talk about it. Especially LLM world right now. uh for several of the ways that I like to Did you see the thing Federico uh wrote about ChatGPT and Siri and all that? The way that I mainly use it and I suspect others don't, is to like munge a fuck ton of data and just to do stuff with stuff and like So I could say, do you find any correlations with season, time of year, weather, all these different kinds of things?

Or just on any sort of mobile. is that one from I forget which I knew this all yesterday. And I got one called that guy. versus the like, you know, what can actually happen. to do this like why is this so hard to do? And you can see like, so you're typing something, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You can say, oh hey, like work with what I have in the terminal right now. find where this is. painting DD figures and 3D printing, like these weird like overlaps. Like not Mr. The wave length, wow, me. No one will buy my iMac Pro. S say these specific words and uh do this uh and go on this specific day uh which is when they have more stock in and that so far I don't what's it I can't get like I can't afford to do it so it's available.

Inficit word. And what's needed, so like it's cool that it does that. Ideally, titles are two to six words long, don't exceed 50 characters. It's not a tech headline. You know, the way you Google your own name and like see how you feel about it. Uh it it's wild because it feels like Notebook LM and Gemini are different models. Crap Judepachinko game as uh Yeah, no no no it it it is th the same model, but it's differ it must be weighted differently. And I said, so for episode number for 382, you derive that from P, class equals S C episode, da da da. Especially because of the colonialist connot connotations. And he's just a piece of shit. Randy the puppet, who looks very much like a very exaggerated puppet, Marionette, and he's a real jerk and he's really mean to Pee-wee and like bullies everybody in the playhouse.

and podcasting. She was an actress who may or may not have had affairs with Ethel Merman. Brady Spitz. Um, Anilie uh O'Hara, who is the um I don't even know what you called her, like the new D. You know, uh Patty likes to rock and roll, a hot dog makes her lose control. God. It says, which means that two women who were born before World War One are trying to write a movie that appeals to young people in 1967. Uh the yes. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, yeah, because the um w what's his name? He is the lawyer slash. Be up your alley. Oh is that totally cut out? Uh oblique, but these three women become addicted to drugs in various ways and they become addicted to different drugs. And then suddenly it's like, oh, okay.

Like the woman who, uh, P Patty Duke, addicted to uh uh speed and uh an alcoholic She, you know, uh doing the uppers and downers and ends up in a sanatorium along with the Wait, you know how you you know how it'd be great to cast in that role? She's very cool. her has taken her own life because Yeah, 'cause she has to have mastectomy, right? She is and like has to help him out. uh movie like it's just this weird sh schmorgesborg of extremely enjoyable uh not nonsense like Oh God, the director would do stuff like stand there, like stand there right next to the talent. If I knew uh one of the Jewish ones. Yeah, again, night in 1945. Uh uh I I won't say any more too much about the people in it, but like Patty Duke had been, like I say, she done theater and movies.

God, you gotta read up on her terrible parents, her parenty people. spoiler for you but one of the funniest bits so she's got these very long things about each one of the lead actresses and I want to come back to remind me to come back to the like they all need this role but at one point she goes like and there are men in the movie She's just getting passed around to do all these different jobs and like sh yes, she had a crisis and had to go I think I just made up that word. And how fucked up they are. Like they're interviewing Sharon Tate and and like basically asking her like how much of a bimbo are you? and like what a sweet, warm person she was. That's it's so similar in some ways to the way that we've treated women and other people, other minorities, for so long.

you know, printouts of articles. And I'm not I'm not trying to say this to like have you go get enraged and have a post about it. uh i it's just this amazing mirror of what uh uh the the the basically the downfall of Hollywood. And it's like, well, there's a lot you could probably don't understand about the ways that look, I'm sorry to make this too broad, but like just when people are like so pissy about like I make that joke sometime. Which I think is is I I feel deeply unfair because that's actually not what I'm trying to do. The point I'm trying to make is this is exactly to me illustrative within the time of my own lifetime that And then neuter the kind of language, hopefully non-hateful, but neuter the kind of language that enables us to talk about how it actually was without shying away.

We don't improve that today by bringing those words back, but we also need to be unflinching in the way that we look at cultural events. Alex, I am I'm I'm I'm being very energetic right now. This week's challenge? Proof of ownership. To be fair, I have twelve minutes left. But th this morning you texted me uh a number of interesting things. I sent you a podcast I think you'd like um by David Farrier called Flightless Bird. I think David Farrier is great. He I th I how does it start? soccer or foot football uniforms. a hell of a duck and the follow-up to it is somehow even more stressful. podcast Flightless Bird, which I do recommend, is that he he's he's a he's from New Zealand and he's trapped in America and basically it's it's him trying to figure out uh American culture.

Um, but he is my favorite and the one that Billy introduced me to the show with is he goes to he he really loves animals and like he has stuffed birds and he likes he just likes dealing with animals. And now you're in the emer in the emergency room and there's five figures on your account. No, no, I'm not concerned about it. Do you know the story about this? Zach Dax Shepherd would just kind of like and I got listen, I got nothing to say against Dax Shepherd in um Idiocracy. than my young person is. I I d uh it doesn't, but we uh I I wish we had less room to regress is my thing. Oh yes. morning. No, I this it's true. uh excuse me, an ex post is funny enough. I was trying to explain to Madeline.

that Robert Moses did what he said to his family, apparently, because nobody knows, to like turn everybody against his brother. Yes. mm mental breaks. I think I only got a partial of the article here. Because like you know there's that process of me with my health stuff. first came out and it was like I I I feel like it's getting way better at figuring out what this is and what I might want to do with it. really well with it, which is not gonna be that useful to that many people. At least for me. And then just style it like we would with the web. in settings, what you can do with files like you can in some models plus the API playground. Anyway, I just want to share that with you. Let me just make a new thread.

Cool and satisfying. my little mood charts. What is the difference? It's been it's been a great terminal on the phone on the phone. Tell John Syracuse. And I really, really enjoy it. me what's happening is everything all right um okay the dad the the for first me then dad they'll upload okay my emerson in mind okay drained of energy or vitality? So like, okay, so a neat feature in D script that I also have ported that I also use via Chat EG. I will be asking you to suggest titles for each episode based on the audio and the transcript. So I just can drop in a list of 20 recent titles, and it seems that really seems to help give the kinds of titles that you would want. It's not perfect, but like it's certainly better than me having to listen to a three-hour episode to try and remember where somebody said one thing.

uh uh fortnightly and I'm kind of trying to wrap up on reconcilable differences. And here are the titles that I've found. It's a good it was a great workflow and we I think we do it really well together. And then I'll do one or two runs at it in ChatGPT. Uh you gotta wash your preteen, holding space for Jeff Goldblum. Oh. I sort of manually traverse the DOM. You're having such a problem figuring out taking an HTML page and figuring out what the episode number is, what the title is and what the challenge was. And same as this pattern. So many boyfriends. But enough of that. Oh, sorry. No? You want to take a minute and watch it, it's like an hour and twenty minutes. Uh no, I uh literally did um in in in fact I um i I r I started it on Kindle and then realized that um Laverne Cox narrated the audiobook and then it was That's not true.

It's very dishyal. this entertainment lawyer's office and uh just kind of in passing she meets Neely the actress and then in another sort of uh random um uh uh video. Yeah, yeah. Stupid. But uh it's very liberally um how do you say illustrated but with video? flu fleshed out you actually understand why these women are yes the book did you want to mention the difference in years Like he basically would have these immaculately edited like montages of dialogue and music from movies and do a full drag performance lip-syncing to the like Neely who is damn it. uh something had happened in the movie and it it was just cut like the reel they forgot to put the next reel in. A child actor who had experienced a ton of trauma and went into a sanitarium and then started the movie right after they got out of the sanitarium And does a phenomenal performance?

They treat this director in particular and everybody involved in general. throughout the m the movie uh and in the the novel and it's her f uh it's her fault she is on drugs and it's her fault that she blows up at people after blame the women the yeah yeah the the the it God, there's you might have seen it in the uh the video essay, but there's a final scene where um uh uh Patty Duke is just having sort of another breakdown and uh has relapsed and is is drunk and just sobbing in the street um because uh an another spoiler, Sharon uh Tate Because he's told them exactly how long their part of the scene should take. illegal drugs for things, but they're kind of blithely trying to tie it in with the whole burgeoning psychedelic thing, like in that banana's dance sing scene.

have uh some gay stuff but also super just can't be queer coded, right? the book there are there are gay affair like openly i it's like do I stay with Daryl Zanach's not gonna like that. There are um I see you're saying the ones who run Hollywood, like Irving Thalberg. Well they they are unironically like hey, I I am not ashamed of being Jewish. It's just super y interesting because then you see the backlash to the pr proud Jewish Jewish men who are like Yeah, we uh fucking got these jobs because you you kicked us out of uh your out of your literally you know why bagels exist? And that's this is why I say start by just watch this casting one and you're gonna learn about a little bit about how you know how the book came around, but like The personal stories of each of these women is pretty fascinating.

Right? something that's not a thing, which is twin cousins. Shot for the time, I think quite sophisticated camera trick stuff of them being on camera together. It's like, well, yeah, let's get this as close as we can to the parent trap, but not get sued. Yes. They wouldn't even give a spin-off to Peyton Place because they're like, we've got to keep her working on this show. You got so every one of them is like, I really God, I hope I get it. You know, it it's it's so horrible what she's known for. adjacent like Manson, adjacent to the Beach Boys, and that he felt like Terry Mulcher had not been helping his career as a singer. had such an impact on these women's lives. Area, but like the beginning of the sort of new Hollywood period that would come to fuller fruition in the early seventies.

uh to grow as a person and especially an easy one, which is trying to say fewer hurtful things about people. What used to be normal for them, what used to be natural for them. You go back, you watch this video, you potentially watch this movie. You're gonna see that that's not just a way to say, well, gosh, I wish I could still call people retarded. I fine, live however you want. But like I feel like we don't learn from even recent history if we try to retroactively change what actually happened. Pfft, a respect for the people who made it through this stuff. That was a rant. Yeah. From from myself, but what's just the ones you know about. Because we're so used to as perhaps now more than at any time since maybe the Civil War, there's never been more incentive to get incredibly emotional about something that you don't really understand and say something horrible.

That's how you fix things. That had an impact on people because they were seen as being completely normal and completely under in a hegemonic way, completely underwriting and underscoring and promoting these really, really toxic ideas. to say the N-word uh like no no one stopping you go right ahead you fucking freaks but uh the like I I think about all of the self-loathing that came from the language that I used and perpetuated just not th Um, I don't know. energetic here. Oh, that's the problem. will tell a story and uh in trying to answer that question realizes that it's a compl he's not just asking the wrong question, but there's a completely different story to tell that runs with all that no okay that's actually I thank you.

No, it it's actually YouTube videos of uh men tickling one another. And he tries to feed a squirrel and it bites him and he has to go to the emergency room in America. All right. because there was no network or multiple network or associations blastered on the story about that. But my progeny. He he's like it's really he was on the armchair uh expert network, which is I guess did he leave? But I don't know. So why? Simmons. things publicly, not even privately, publicly said uh about trans people and it's just g it gets a little bit it gets a little bit much, uh honestly. We all we do. Let's go look. Theo Vaughn is The O Vaughn. And had Trump on, which was, I think, the most hum the most human Trump has ever seemed.

Both, both. for his uh late brother. You're not supposed to talk about text outside of text. Enthusiastic about the writing. functionality in D script that I will be um putting to the test today as the new editor of our program. Yeah. Did you like the name of the group that I made? Uh, I think I mentioned, uh I know I mentioned fairly recently, uh, well, B, yeah, we shouldn't talk about AI stuff all the time. Um I'd be very Be that as it may be that as it may, I um to be fair Hey, can we go back to that thing where I said, hey, stop trying to turn my life into a tech headline? have uh let me know and they'll enjoy the after show. Alright, fine, fine. I like the way he distinguished between a couple things um with AI and LLMs and why can't I find it?

the kinds of degenerative things that make image playground or Sora movies as against the kinds of And cut a long story short, I um was thinking, oh shit, I I've got a CPAP machine, and my CPAP machine has an SD card in it. get it to deal with all of my health data. that I remember to take out and download approximately twice a year. handy stuff like that. And that was neat. When you deal with the NIH, there's just so many tables and information and all this stuff. You know, because I mean as a as a former person who worked in an office, I know what it's like to like grab some stuff and want to change it. Like it does still drive me very crazy that there are some things that seem intuitive to me because I don't think like an LLM that still drives me crazy.

It's it's in the it's not you don't drag it, at least what I do you right-click and you say move to this folder or move to this project. It's it's you know not crazy. Data file in June and come back in December, I mean there's a pretty good chance it's gonna say, what are you talking about? That's great too. Have you found it useful in any way? That's whatever. Oh no, sorry. Uh, where did it go? Which is my terminal app of choice. putting together not uh actually not mm health information. Well, and and especially if it's like, okay, so uh I want to know, please actually compare these insurance plans. Yes. Yeah, uh well it's coupon. I need that for my train too and it drives me crazy. You'll see that when you click on that little thing, you tell it I want to work with this given app.

Alphrid, which I'll I have for check. No it's no no I know, but I just haven't. I just didn't have a reason to use it. Like, hmm, what about that thing? This is a very at least a very interesting use case. Yeah, no. Interesting. I I am not carrying water out. You know? Such a sensation. No, it's it's still the best selling uh paperback novel of all time. Um, according to her, until the Harry Bot Potter books came along, it was the you know, it was basically the Bible, the Quran, and Valley of the Dolls until the 1990s. Uh one and she comes from a um town in Massachusetts that I can't remember, but it's like the typical like waspy type uh instance of like, oh, we're we're ladies and we're hanging out.

Right? The main difference between the book and uh the novel is uh the the f uh, you know, not the main difference. Uh the older Xanok wanted to make a classic Hollywood movie full of glamour, and the other Xanok wanted to make one of the new kind of Bonnie and Clyde type movies that was very edgy, and they picked the worst elements from both. By two women in their fifties. Yes. Oh yeah, I uh I am going to watch this video. Oh no. No. who's a desperately articulate, charming guy. What? of the movie was was so upset about the ending, it was like, nope, not having my points in the movie Super know her. the scope of time is really unclear the it's that there's grave continuity problems. wouldn't be important except the consequences of their like the the consequences are different from the different kind of drugs.

I mean just what these people did. to be the oh shoot, who's the older actress who sings the tree song? Against the Patty Duke character. Which is why, you know, the book written by a woman, you s see uh her point of view and you there is that sense of trauma and uh I in the book it's or sorry, in the movie, it's uncl like it's literally unclear. Well there is a feeling of reality, honestly. You would think that these actresses, like all the reviews said, these actresses are terrible in this movie. Yeah, that is exactly how it feels uh yeah, yeah. uh the the whole i idea of these women coming into contact with with drugs and also they uh haven't ever really been around men before because they're all young women and for years Um let's see.

The uh it w yeah the it talks yeah yeah they they talk about he he's like oh man the the one thing I miss about it he talks to um uh wait wait wait I've got it um talks So again, I be kind rewind. In the 1960s, everyone hated women, especially Hollywood. Like she was cut off from she wasn't allowed to talk to other teenagers. Stand what a twin cousin is is that like Irish twin what a twin cousin? But like, you know what else that means? She was very she had a lot of problems. She needed to have some way of going from being known primarily from the Patty Duke show, but also as the little blind girl in that movie, right? To brain school. Right. Unbelievable. But she also had so much to her. And she has the most expressive eyes and the most amazing presentation.

She's uh I'm trying to find this woman's name behind Rewind. I mean, I I didn't realize just how much these women needed uh the the roles. And it's just you see this I I on several levels. that really need to be in that move. to a way that we use words, even the F-word. It was super normal that the way we used to behave, the way we used to talk to each other. You you can't just like play that off and say, well, actually, you know, they were very well cared for and often got to stay with their children. that we all just pass to each other like a bowl of nuts. about how much we uh used the word gay to just mean is stupid or just on the state. No no homo as as a you know joke j as a joke, but not a joke.

Oh, just well just that um podcast that uh honestly. Well that sounds like air guitar. Which is talking about you know w what he does, if you like promoting things he does, but he does it in like the nicest, most organic way. I do, but No no, I mean I'm talking about for my little world thing. I I know Jason Snow listens to this, but for once I think I did not learn about it from him. Are we talking about wait, are we are we talking who are we talking about right right now? Oh, I don't want you to mad. If that makes sense. Um but um but but what's nice is that that's a form of curation for me. Almost the entire time. Just ringing in his head. But he would deliberately go in and make sure not Fred, sorry.

Still does not have an answer to. you know, at least half a century removed because what could have happened. Um what are you deep into? Similar not quite but similar to the guitar solo I think Mr. after show. No, M wearing I am wearing fun sweater. things that are not gonna be the banner features to somebody who's coming in relatively new, but these really scratch an itch. And as soon as you say that, then people go, well, like, how do you verify that each thing is correct? It'd be kind of interesting to take my just as an experiment, right? I just I just threw it all at it fresh thread and say, you know, fine patterns. The projects I have right now are I just started one called DBF. Because it you get all the good stuff.

That you can now interact with directly in ChatGPT. Like for code-based things that I can't get to work in Chat GPT. I d I d I do. No, I'm not I'm not I'm not that I'm not that deep. I use prompt for man prompt rules. I n I know. is I say there's a great thing in the script, what they call Underlord, which is a little cute, but it's their little AI based thing. Um give us your fucking money, you go to there, you're clicking. Touchgrass or whatever. I did. Uh what's what's it saying? No, I mean parts, but I just playhouse named Randy. It was a delight. No, no. Yes, but uh only isn't a slightly uh I'm giving myself away here, slightly iconic, queer text in some ways, like very campy. Yeah, well that's how You didn't get to hear the interview with Lip Sinka.

Rr uh if you m mean the soy boy cuck, then yes. Anne works at a I know that this it sounds disjointed, but that's how it is in the novel as well. To her gay her gay husband. The scene about the woman dancing and talking about planting her tree. And then in the movie. I'm putting that carefully. Um, but oh Jesus. Raves Merlin man. That has, you know, it's a family family, including a daughter. I mean not that it may be No no no no no but I'm getting I it's it is no but it's important every single one of between eleven and seventeen every single one of those years means so much. And she shows like three shots in the men in the movie and then goes right on to Barbara Parkins or whatever. Um, she really needs this role.

She's famous, like, you know, famously unreliable. a certain amount of money for this that she really, really needed and she needed to like straighten up and fly right. The Mancy Manson family thought that was still um Doristay's son, what's his name, Melcher. Terry Melcher. But I noticed that the latest project form had 900,000 views in one day. civil rights or people are so pissy about uh what they call uh what's that terrible phrase people use? Well, I mean, like another way of saying identity politics is caring about anybody who's not a white man. There's there's a thing that I say a lot that I have to imagine frustrates people. White means something. that like you know kind of portrays these people a certain way.

That sounds, and I understand this, it sounds like I'm trying to excuse that, not even apologize for that, but it sounds like I'm trying to excuse the way people have acted and behaved in the past. You you oughtn't teach, if you're gonna have an American doll s American girl doll story and try to teach about slavery, you're gonna have to talk about slavery. This everything in this was completely normal to people. Well, and it says uh uh I uh we and you know, we uh my friends and I used to say uh uh And um I I I enjoyed Tickled and I like the other one. Yes, pro professional it is important to know that it's not just athletic wear. I thought as soon as you sent this to me when I saw the show art, I was immediately intrigued Oh, absolutely.

discourse, you know. Yeah. This guy, am I right? Uh uh uh pardon, I uh this is not professional. Sunday to start. Um 3 a. I um to be fair, I um am very excited about a lot of uh things in my little um The rest is let me just do it quickly then. You know, so you could you could start something called NIH grant. zero one at all because it'll confuse y you and it turns people off. You know what I mean? And so I can be doing all of my notes in text edit. To see an opportunity to link two things that interest me that are seemingly unrelated. All right, so so look at what I just sent you. Yes, in stock, but I can't get it. keeping tabs on it as in in in i as in in my uh operating Yeah. Back to the club.

This show are not in front of me. Um it's the advanced voice mode, which I always use. So so you're not just carrying the water. Yes! Very, very nobody. place there is uh a a quote says um my uh George Washington didn't s live at my house but he did drink out of the well which I thought was very funny I mean I was actively looking, you know, through all of their credits. You know, like the kind of thing you'd see on like in the background somewhere just to have a visual something. I don't know if he invented that, but he's the best known practitioner of that that I'm aware of. Just the the book obviously very, very bleak uh I mean like the m the movie too. But guess what? It's weird, but in the um in the in the novel, also her um uh hus husband, also in the movie, who has Huntingstons, um it's the young men have been at war or they've been at the end of the year.

Yes. Very um oh man. Maybe for some more than others, but in some ways for every female lead in this movie, this getting this movie represented a really big deal for their career. So she had to do a lot of stuff twice for four for four years. They they want to get Judy Garland. We have such misconceptions about other people. very well told story that just leaves you walking away feeling so frustrated about the I'm gonna put on my some kind of hat for a minute here. Well what's neat is she this this gal who makes this video, she's so good. Um the uh just like the the way this movie mirrors the and it doesn't talk about uh the uh how much Hollywood is flailing, but uh resent people telling me that things were different than the way they were in order to help them avoid something that's uncomfortable about what used to be normal because that's how you improve things.

Yeah. But um he did a Scientology movie too. And I would actually want to I would like to manicure some specific starting episodes. Like proactively. It's fascinating and the the it it makes me realize that I am the kind of person who loves gossip as long as it's You understand that joke? Can't stop the Skype jam, so there's no way to add a marker. Um I just made between podcasting trick about the history. No, it's okay. My all of my health records out of Apple Health. To bridge that gulf between the totally crazy way an LLM seems like a person. It's just e I don't know, I just find it easier to find things. And um let me open up text edit. Oh, I figured it out. like not of s sound mind to put in all of your health information.

You don't listen to an entire episode when you I am not never mind. Not where like Gemini now has I think they are just called workflows. She focuses heavily, how can I put this? The well I guess Wikipedia is wrong. I had seen clips of Valley of the Dolls in uh like a queer media class. is about three women who form a uh this little like coalition of girls who want to make it in show business. And um you've got uh Barbara Parkins, maybe the woman from Peyton Place, who was nominally gonna be like the big star of it because Peyton Pac Place was so popular. Yeah, I I you know heard like Mother's Little Helper and like you know pick me up's a number of different things, but I did not know that uh like oh my little dolls that's it's a play on words It was so frustrating watching this movie, because especially after reading the book, because it was as if, and I am also getting this sense from you, that they had just That's very good.

The the town she's from, uh like he got kicked out as like, oh yeah, can't go to the country club there and it's swamped To Barbara Parkins about how the only thing that he misses from the East Coast is is bagels because oh the town she's from that. You asked for it. Um and it was just horrible. Uh 1. Good for her. Or pants of color. And that's become a big deal to me. That is fair to say completely bananas. Yes! presume to represent as their political party and the people that share their political ideals and their openly hostile E A E G E Da da da da da Well I woke up this morning da da da da da da put my feet on the floor gotta dust my broom that kind of thing. Yeah. Right. Uh it is not a I I don't think it's hyperbolic to say that Oh interesting.

I assume. I was uh so taken aback by this novel, which is a very good thing. So those does Yeah, who I didn't know was so and Lee Grant. They treat Patty Duke like some they they basically turn her into this this this wack-a-doo weirdo. Can I tell you about this video? No, I need to hear stories like that, but no, no, no. I'm in the young people group. not just made the my quality of life just sort of skyrocket, but the ability to when you're I'm really surprised that it allows you to say here are some examples uh because I had a similar workflow with Gemini that just completely failed. Here's what I said last night, and I realize you're you're not on the internet much anymore. Uh what is it?

And um and Anne Bancroft was I forgot her name. with a lot of cultural phenomena in the movie at least. Oh, um right now I have a hundred and twelve text messages. Oh, oh shit! How could you Oh were you on triple speed? Um I sorry, are you open to liking a history podcast? I love this. Yes. Roy, but some kind of really insufferable magician who's also a proctologist and he produces like a bouquet of fruit. All all money spends the same and all water weighs the same, unless it has things besides water in it. Oh. bad at everything. I don't know how to type anymore. It's all and like this director is such a piece of shit. wildly upsetting and yet it is still a very campy and uh sometimes intentionally, often unintentionally uh uh funny uh I love too much is my heart defect.

Like when she goes to movies and she sees herself in that movie with Dean Martin. I have made it, I continue to not that it matters, because intention an intention of five bucks will get you a coffee. That's 90% of what was oh my god, that place is so gay. Everyone's so everyone's so uh like the show is always about the show on these shows. Yes. Recently. I think it's 4-0. Thank you. Those are all not too bad. Have you uh engaged with what I've been calling Chappy G lately, which is Chatty G's voice advancing? Wait, is that the Chris Fleming has the ongoing bit and everything about boyfriends and how he hates dealing with boyfriends Yes, especially because I read the book as well. And so but it's about but isn't it kind of about the vagaries of Hollywood and how crazy it is to be a woman in Hollywood and like it's such a machine and you gotta do stuff.

Yes. In California, a fourteen, fifteen, six I guess probably sixteen year old girl would be able to work four hours a day. So she really needs that role. kind of how uh the uh you know the sort of edgelordy uh podcast guys who do really want Again, we're a little bit behind the curtain, but I had a feeling what are you worried about? Oh, is it available now uh to stream? I'm on the internet all the time. New paragraph. Huh. Everybody says she is the nicest and warmest person they've ever met. Mhm. Um, do a quick Google on, I think it's L Y P. And now she would be she would be less than nothing. I mean it it it was like golden age Hollywood is is Yeah I mean in that story this is the beginning like people people point to stuff especially like Bonnie and Clyde from that area.

I think his name is. He wrote a really good piece about it and see I don't obviously don't have it in front of me right now, but he um this is not gonna be news to insiders like you, but I really like the way he Like, you know, I'm sitting there in a GUI word processing app when I really should probably be doing stuff at a much more granular data level. Did you understand them? I have no idea what happens in the movie. Okay, I'm gonna look at that. But very much about those those are two people who obviously still very weigh very heavily on his mind. I tried context clues and I think you said the wrong word. I I probably won't have anything i interesting to just. I think what's her name? I did not know that.

Oh, that's what that's supposed to be. Like it it was really uh like like Lion Burke is um i is Jewish and the guy who uh like the the the guy who owns the firm, uh the talent slash law firm Um she was 18. But I'm looking at him now. I if you think I'm just saying that to cover myself with glory and sound either alternately woke or angry, I mean fine. Sorry, go on, go on. No, because I feel like I'd respect James Joyce enough to not take up his time and very bad vision. And it did. I don't know if that's accurate, but but the I the result you're seeing does not specifically surprise me just because it's already such a And if you'd watched Yeah, sure would be if you'd watched it. I can do That's not fun.

Oh have I ever. It's a documentary and it goes so deep. He had a great word for it. So I use Oscar to grab all the data off the card. I'm laughing with the computer at you. No no no no no no no no no I'm not on I I use Pythonista Pythonista on a phone, but Yeah, sure, sure He feels like he's about a week away from meeting a boyfriend who just lays on the floor and says, you know, humans were never meant to walk on their legs. This week's challenge was to watch a video from the channel Be Kind Rewind, which I am I have so much to say. So I get to see you get to see what the movie looks like. She won an Oscar for the Miracle Worker when she was a kid. And I I don't want to say like I I just kept being like, wait, this is nineteen it's written in the nineteen sixties, but like Yes.

And I don't mean to seem defensive, but I'm saying that to you, and I'm saying that to our audience. And it's never been easier to be a piece of shit. Do you have any idea how I'm telling you how deep in I am right now? He's his persona kind of bugs me. I just I wanted to talk about projects. No, it's on a Mac on the web. So final piece of this that's so neat. Well I'm sorry. I haven't checked. The the um uh did you see the trailer at at least for no it's it's um the video all I've watched is the video and it That's very good. The Rolling Stones, like you say, had that song Mother's Little Helper about, you know, taking, I think it was Dexadrine. A beast pointation movie with Tony Curtis that's amusing enough, but pretty stupid.

And they ended up there. Last week I made that joke about African-American marks. You start by going, no, no, this was a really big fucking problem. Yes. As recently as last night has made it very clear to me that he's mostly off Twitter at this point. Casey doesn't remember. Oh s oh for sorry, no no no. I figured it out. But putting in all of uh the water possible inch almonds. Are you having trouble sourcing it or getting the prescription out of curiosity? Relax. Is that a challenge? But well in that case, why don't we start with so uh however uh there's no there's no uh there's no bad ideas As it happens, they're identical. Marlin, we've talked about this. Oh, yeah, there's a bunch from our friend there.

He talked about his fear of drugs. I just use Riverside. Um, which is why I I used Riverside when I was uh in to be uh enthusiastic about the right things. So this is with 4. How can I make this cheaper? And the and um just I I mean a lot about It's like, no, you're still not getting the tone. He's like Scott Farkas. I thought that was the challenge. Wow. Uh V Valley of the Dolls, originally a I can't believe I didn't know this. It was like years later would be like, you know, Jaws or maybe like the Da Vinci Co, just one of those like everybody reads this book kind of book. You got uh so you got you got Sharon Tate, you got Sharon Tate, you got her, you got um God, what do you hear? It is in the 45 and uh And the movie takes place in 1967 Did you know that?

Watch Valley of the Dolls. Oh, never mind. Like no, you understand? Never mind. So then I said, fuck it. Make this easy. No, it's not a joke. Um but j so may I suggest, why don't you tell us about the phenomenon that was Valley of the Dolls and I'll if you're interested, I'll just pop in with some of the my leavings and learnings from watching that video. To summarize the the battle between the two Xanax, uh parent field, the father and the son. And who who originally uh like th so much of the original novel is this is post war America and this is the first time I never realized that. Yes, yes, yes! You don't even know what's good in your No, you're so damaged. Yeah, okay. But like I know that there's a place to Well not I think oh I don't I I mean just organization for tidiness's sake is fine.

I think this is exciting and it's like there's something that when you're trying to learn something um and you don't really know what you're doing, well if you knew what you're doing you probably wouldn't be learning it. I I uh uh I I know him now as a guy from Valley of the Dolls. Specifically pills as what they call dolls, which I had never heard of. If you need an episode to start with, I'll find this for notes. But he would apparently like dip in sometimes and be like, hey, what's going on? Oh well I did a preported your presentation, yes. m. Now as anybody knows who uh nobody knows, but I like to know about people's heights and I like to know about who was that guy from the thing. She goes and finds New York Times or whatever, Vincent Camby's review or whatever and like pulls it up.

We say brown pants because brown has a meaning. Yes. I enjoy your human Christmas. Oh, I'm sad and frustrated now. I wouldn't pay attention to that. I'm writing this one. What'd you think about that? The uh in in fact, Matthew says, please tell Merlin, I loved being part of this experience. And then when she got out, boom, she goes straight into doing. It's a shame that white has come to mean Caucasian, but like those words do actually still have meaning. I am energetic not quite on task. Yes. It starts with him, is it seeing ads is the f is where it starts, right? So you're looking for that you're chasing the dragon. Does that give you any indication of where you are right now? Yeah. I want you to be happy.

I'm here to tell you honey that I'm bad to the bone. I'm writing to our friend right now and I'm saying Alex is undermining my OPSec. History um trans podcast. I get confused about which is which. But like when you're trying to learn something, you'll discover these little tickles that like interest you to go somewhere. Whoa, wait. Wait, the amount how much water weighs Should we do the challenge? Can I can I ask you a favor? Yes. Um and what I knew was that I don't know how I don't know how he discovers anything, but boy I don't enjoy uh I don't enjoy going to that app. Like no no, you still can't hire my brother who would be perfect for this job. We can talk about the challenge. this evening is not a thing, but what what?

I know. And oh, is that worth pursuing? So that's all I had to say. Sam outman, why are you? Wow. And she was like twelve. I'm sorry, I'm getting so far ahead. Oh Jesus. And at one point he said, you know, he told me about the Squirrel episode. We all have room to I mean show me the why. Never mind. Um but uh you know I just think the the project thing is neat especially if it gets you into this idea of of th not just being organized Last three episodes of Recdiffs, I get the D script uh suggestions. Did you actually watch Showpig? I'm not going to look it up. It is a lucid, riveting, and infuriating story about some of the ways Hollywood deliberately undermines women. I got a found a good print of the movie.

Is there one scene where it's like a dressing room and she's sitting on a couch? Played by not Lee Grant. Um so I mean the the thematic God I hate when people talk about spoilers, what a dumb phrase. Patty Duke, she's a kid. I uh I feel like I need to provide proof of friendship in the future. I think it is much more the voices of the Freds because the less love? No, I like the noise and I think it's a good thing. I'm sorry. What's a w where is a good place? And just just to put up just to put a quick uh stake in the ground. So so so you know it'd be fun. I did. That's the listener emails. Um and the challenge this week guests like Dak Shepard. Okay, um Merlin doesn't care. More functional things.

It knows about your memory stuff. It's trying to think the way in a way similar to the way people think. The mistake I made in this instance is to get the juicy wonderful ability to interact with Macs Mac apps, you do have to use the Mac ChatGPT app, but look at what I just sent you. Romanoclay in some ways about like Sorry, I'm stepping on your part. And it's you know again, let's let's go back to 1966 or whatever. Oh hubba hubba. And then the way the director treats all of them is pretty extraordinary. And then when the reviews came out, they were uniformly scathing. No. There's like a handful of things that have happened in the last little while that are It's much less accessible on a uh technical basis and on a I don't understand it, but I love making it and watching it go brrr snakes.

What's what's No, I know. Hmm. Nelly or Rennie or what's her name? Mm-hmm. Oh, I think I am in receipt of a shortcut from a friend of the show for making notes. It's kind of like, you know, making an O face for YouTube, similar, you know, kind of thing. No relation to Gene Simmons as far as I know. I'm I'm not in the tops. It depends, you know? Doesn't doesn't doesn't Mr. I mean, well just here's here's here's a couple things that are very exciting inside of ChatGPT in particular. There's there's a few things more frustrating than technology that won't let you do a thing that you know how to do. Yeah. Back to the millionaire millionaire still talking about megalopolis. What about representation matters for arthropods too?

Oh, you mean like a late in the process before we release it kind of butcher job? Please do. That's all right your paper about. It was a it was a mistaken identity. Proof of black friend. Or like uh you know, one of those um one of those Middle Eastern Airlines that sponsors everything. I think it was a network or is a network. After listening to that, I'm I I don't think we've ever amended a title, but you know, ip ipterfos factory. Mm-hmm. I feel like he said, maybe much might have been an interview, but he said one of the things he still does not really have an answer to is why he was that way with his brother and what it was You're so deep. But anyhow, um, so I just think that stuff is exciting and the fact that And you as a phone user, I can't imagine you trying to do all that on a phone.

So what do I have in DBF now? I need new glasses. They did the shooting in New York instead of California because of child labor laws. Um, but so where was I at? But you're not we as people, as individuals, will not grow if we don't try to derive a better understanding of what things actually used to be like, rather than the version of it that doesn't make us uncomfortable. He like actively he actively undermined like things that would have been absolutely no no uh no skin off his teeth. 0 and um and um and it's because I'm doing the uh I I didn't tell you this, but I'm editing the show now, just so you know. They're cousins, identical cousins. I mean, disassociation, you know? I take everything nice.

I'm writing down podcasts and now I'm writing down trans. I like when people no, I I I but you're like you you the thing is you're you're you're you're like you're you're literally just keeping the bathwater and throwing out all the babies. Oh, I disagree. I said I replaced this equipment five days ago. I'm not sorry. Um, Sharon Tate, like she's been the first movie I ever saw Sharon Tate in was Don't Make Waves, which is a a beach sploitation. 02 million subscribers. The concept of the show is David Farrier is bet probably best known as the documentarian who made a movie called Tickled. I don't want you to be mad. We've already talked about this. This is in 4. No, it's all right. No, no. And I think we caught up again recently, probably a month or two ago, about how wow, this has come so far.

Come back. You did you know inflammable and in inflammable mean mean the same thing? One half of that reference acknowledged? I like this one. Welcome to Mr. Like I go in and like we'll be like, like this morning with the title request stuff, I'm like, okay. Do you prefer sparkling or do you prefer sparkling or still? Yes. We are holding such completely different parts of absolutely the same elephant, but like we we both have such different viewports into what this thing is that we're talking about, and I kind of love it. Her biography sounds like a great read if you want something to read. And Judy Garland has had all kinds of problems with drugs and alcohol and money. The way we like you know, the same way we yell at poor people and like yell at them for being poor and then ask them why they're still poor.

No, I was at 2. Someone was born. Yeah, I'm I I think so. The second cool thing is you can write instructions, right? I I didn't double check with I should have double checked with Chatty G. And yet it looks extraordinary. So she has to sit there and do scenes with a young woman who's obviously there's so many layers of trauma to this. I did. So can we just cut to the chase? Just I I don't enjoy going to X the Everything app, so my rule is someone must send me a screenshot It's very good. Um, but distinguishing between Jesus, this is pointless. Um it works with all of those things. I have no I'm I'm I'm still uh like exp I'm like explain coupons to me. And that helps a lot. What I said was tomorrow's due by Friday challenge is to watch this video about the casting of Valley of the Dolls 19.

And I I should say also well th the book also ver very gay. So tell me tell me more about the Gila Hava. It's just a he's good he's good at storytelling. That seems like a reasonable rule. I I do kind of want to tell you the shit that I'm into right now because it's super fucked up. I'll give you a head start. What is a way that like I don't need to see this magical proctologist, but I do need uh the l'amictal. It's not a tech headline. I am not knowing a headline. Just clunking, clunking, clanging context clashes that just make no sense. The movie. I'm very excited about it. Just a wonderful channel. It meant a really big deal for each of their careers. I guess I should also mention she's fucking hot as fuck in this movie.

That's pretty much all the setup you need because there hangs the tale. I have an app for exporting that. But um the and oh, just I was able to put in like, hey. And so uh this will be a podcast in two parts. So p by Patty Duke, I mean, uh people my age will know her from the Patty Duke show, which she did for four seasons, where she very delightfully played. I don't know, maybe you read the book, I don't know. Well, the way it came to me is is through my child, who's increasingly less of a child. Oh, you know what's in my pocket right now. And I grabbed all of my CPAP data, all of my datum data that has my weed consumption in it. No, sorry, come back to me. At least VS Code would help you so much with that.

It's I am looking at this and I didn't know. Yeah. Um god. Oh, and on oh I know follower on Nebula. But um I think it's called my Scientology movie. And and apparently, I guess sometimes that that muscle-bound hunk of a podcaster He seems like one of those guys who would refer to people by their last name and talk about the pod, you know? I uh No, I'm sorry. Theo Vaughn. Is it it it treats treats him better than Robert Moses treated his brother. Um Robert Moses' brother is uh Uh Jose no not Joseph. Did you know that? Um, and uh it's like actually this even if you don't have insurance, this coupon, I don't I still don't understand coupons. And so far I'm really surprised with how it picks up on stuff.

A minute? I the the only other thing I w I will say is if you uh this is a really fucking good book. Yeah, we should we should yeah, buddy, you and me we should race. I wanted to talk about integration with Mac Apps. Like it's pretty neat to me that we'll like sometimes, you know, three or five of the titles that we'd written down will be one that D script recommends, which seems like a good sign. I actually tend to like D scripts better but our last episode our most recent episode before this which was a week ago uh it came up with energetic is a code word. I don't know the references, nor do I know the math. Or maybe, the challenge was to watch a video about the casting of Valley of the Dolls.

No, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I am Sam. Oh my god, this art. Hey Pee-wee. You contain the water. Her gay-coated husband. Not only did you blow up my OPSEC, but now I've got how many messages? Oh, okay. I really want to get it, you know? And let's just you can even just limit it to Sharon Tate. And to me, you watch this video on the casting of uh Valley of the Dolls, and it's difficult to walk away with anything but Kara say, I think at one point, there's only a handful of things, like questions that he really No no no no no well if you want to work on notes that's fine. We go back to December of last December and January of last year where I was just like pushing a rock, trying so hard to like I mean it's really easy to miss this, but there are s several Mac apps and a few other apps.

No, no, I I no no I'm laughing at you. And should I do that? Sorry, not sorry. It's just I don't have any view into the movie and I feel like an idiot. Ryan O'Neal was in there? Anyways I didn't. Because you've been up uh uh you got up early this morning and 3 a. I I agree. No, he's not a robot, he's a fucking alien. I think it probably works with notes too. Um I guess I could say invigorated. Roy Industries. Oh yeah, and there's a video component now, right? Um she is nearly and so who plays who does Sharon Tate play? They just don't. Yes, I forgot. Lipsinka slash John Epperson said, you know, it's not not to criticize anybody in the movie, but like I need to send a message to our our previous host because I want the b I want I want the more screenshots of tweets.

If you if you're going with the whatever the sexy new one is, like there's still some stuff it doesn't do. Yeah, I think it's 4-0. I think they're over in drafts. No. We're putting it under trans, the third trans title. Oh, oh my god. All right. Oh no, you you go I mean dude, like you know, I I don't recommend that that much stuff to you. I'll talk to Lee Grant too. If you're Judy Garland and you have absolutely no money and haven't made a movie in four years, how about we hire Judy Garland to come in and play that role? So imagine and and what Lipsinka says that sounds right is that like there's no sort of like note that's not over hit in this. Well just to clarify, so you're saying it's not that the book is against Jewish people, but people say characters say anti-Semitic things.

She only learned about news by going to the set of whatever she was working on. I'm not asking for a round of applause just because we start stopped calling people horrible names. I mean, yes, it was a little bit arch and a little bit like, ooh, like a tittering sort of ooh, it's it's chicks with boobs taking drugs. I'm gonna be a good thing. I don't see too many from you, so I think you're as good as your word. Isn't it a funny name? But I think people I disagree. It doesn't work with drafts, I think for a variety of reasons with you know document type and things like that. Yeah, right? Uh Claude is from Anthropic and Gemini is Google. Can we start potentially associating this with the names of the actress?

Oh, I lost the uh Patty Duke. So, but like she just sounds like the best, and you can just see these interviews with them. You're the sky, not the weather. Isn't that crazy? Uh recdiffs. I watched this two parts. His whole deal in mostly in the nineties, w where his name comes from. As long as he doesn't touch my cordless drill. She's barely old enough to, you know, vote. I I literally can't. And I say things like, well, guys, that's just how everyone used to talk. Uh-huh. I'm not gonna use occurrence terms you've seen on Instagram. Wait, I'm and I'm not getting the good tweets. John Favreau. Oh, Jesus Christ, I'm so deep. I was like, I don't check if anything is totally correct in life. And you'll see this little canvas-y kind of looking thing, like not canvas-looking thing, but like almost like a crop tool.

And it knows what you're referring to and it it's really cool. And this is an exciting time. They thought they thought it was still Terry. I am I I I am disappointed. m. But it's got all of my data. I got one called Sleep Project. A list of all of our recent episodes. So if you're in in this case 4. What do you think? No, this is in Chatty G, but I just I just inspect element in Safari and copy out the surrounding stuff. You know how bitch e facts can be. And I think this woman, the Beacon Rewind woman, whose name I don't know, makes a pretty good case that And then uh a cousin, I guess somebody's brother or sister's kid, has to come over from England to live with them while their father does a lot of stuff for business.

Oh, he abused Sarah uh Ferrafusset majors. 5X. And it's neat. I output 800 days of data as a CSV. And what's neat is your old threads, you can move them into that project. No. Don't call it that. And um and then I'll say like here's the the three, five, ten, thirty-five titles that we've got. I went to NYU, the city is my campus. They had adaptation. Like for example, the idea that, yeah, people are taking, we now know that more people are taking more drugs than we really This show is such an earner. I'm not even gonna say it. Black has a meaning. Maybe even some empathy and forgiveness for the women who did behave badly, because holy shit, look at the system that they were in. I know it really helps the show, but uh I didn't know.

He does a Theovon. Yeah. My uh biggest thing before was like it needs to search, it needs to load, and yeah. 0. I figured out what else was wrong. You're allowed to get this. And with my other shows, it's already become really, really a big part of doing the dumb shit that I do for the shows that I do. Not I've tried to get it to write the show notes for I think I I posted a screen grab of this on Saturday night because I'm I like to party. Because I wanted to write like me. One minute and twenty No no You watch it on 4X speed. Yeah, it would have been very interesting for me to watch this after watching. She talks to Lip Sinka. I I do feel like it's slower in a way that I find extremely satisfying because a lot of times what it's doing is kind of checking itself.

Ha ha. That was even further not part of the challenge, but sure. They meet Jennifer who is another actress but is L-I-P-S-Y-N-C-A. She was the youngest Oscar winner of all time. So what do we do? It doesn't mean that the men were were doing things on each other's bodies. But anyway, he's a journalist from New Zealand. I know. Well it's a bit for Roderick on the line because there's there's there are a handful of blues songs that begin with I can I can even do it for D I uh m mix up the uh canvas and project features. You'll see a little thing, but you'll click and you'll see a little pop-up that'll say, like, hey, here's the apps that are open right now that I can interact with. And they're like well actually if you're just trying to get another computer, the trade in with Apple will will be better if you go to this Should I put a pin in that?

You carry water for people who hate you and I'll never understand that. She focuses heavily on the history of like especially Hollywood actresses through a queer lens, is how I would put it, I think. Uh I don't know the actor's name, but l uh le Levi, y you know, the um the lawyer slash Apart from what I can glean from context clues, they beat the shit out of Patty Duke. Uh oh uh you know who I mean uh I don't know the older bitch who is that wasn't nice. She really goes through, not just to find the footage, but she goes through and finds the It is. Let's let's let's let's not put a pin. It's a very amusing show. There's not like an armchair podcast universe. You've seen this, right? You get more you get more good stuff there.

No, L-I-P-S-Y-N-C-A. But they're also trying to they're they're maybe not expressly but tacitly trying to tie this in. I can do you name any movie executive from the 20s to the 70s. Because that's it's kind of the parent trap in some ways. At scale. Oh my god. It's good looking men in athletic wear, d tightly binding each other up and tickling them in something that this person claims is a sport, right? We we all have room to grow and we don't all progress at the same rate, but that doesn't mean we're all bad Oh, Kevin for Fend, you mentioned something more than once. An ex post facto. Oh yeah, three now we're just saying I'm not good at time. Great for most tasks. I mean I don't even I just run it in terminal.

Sometimes you're just like, I just I can't with you right now. Yes, yes, yes. And like he's all about the camera. Well, that's because the director kept telling them to beat the shit out of every line reading. Mm-hmm. But every single one of those actresses needed to be in this movie about how terrible and dumb women are. Why? And didn't he do a Scientology movie? Yeah. I uh I mean I'm not brain right now. You're like one of those Chapo people. I just asked the internet and they agreed. You know what? And at you. Never mind. No, I just watched the Wait, you still haven't watched Showpig? Does he? Here's your ice cream soup. Nelly. The uh in a way she probably didn't even realize. But but just the I don't think it is l okay, no, it is not like anger porn.

Good after morning, Mr. What episode do we talk about it on? I'll give you till Sunday to get it out. Never mind. Oh my goodness. Oh. No, you you you are a thousand percent not gonna believe what every fucking woman in this movie has gone through, but especially Patty Duke. I did not. But imagine being Sharon Tate, you're up and coming and like and oh god I'm not saying that. The way we would just talk about queer-coded people was not cool. I sent you the NPR coffee table book. It is exactly my genre of bananas. There's no concern. I texted about I talked about a text inside another text. Ha ha ha. There's this open source app called Oscar that I'll surely forget to put in notes. I'm scrolling down.

Like we've got this garbage book I'm not a monster, but it was very, very good. But when I say a a universe, I mean a fun little world where when they interact, you actually know And it was w w w just it it was Fred the father, not Fred the brother. Do you notice any difference? We talked about that before. And then if he has if he has changes, he changes it in the CMS, changes the text. And he's also a super fan. Please. I think we'd watch Tickled at that point. I'm so deep in and I want to talk to you about it. Yes. And you'll see you get more credits with that. And where is the little where's the little logo? Um this this is interesting. Two African American marks. I'll carry whatever you want.

This week's challenge was to watch Valley of the Dolls. But it's but it but I mean like not to not to spoil the bit, but it is can't be fun, right? It's now up there for me and my favorite channels. But so anyway, it was the patty dukes. You know, she's looking for the role that's gonna like take her to the next thing. We don't even know how much we're being shithels all the time. But the thing I say to all my kids, apropos of nothing, well to the podcast kids anyway, is he's so good at something that almost nobody is good at. The cocks on the pod this week. Um they're all good, but the two guys like like um David are not annoying. That's very, very harder to find good names. I I just m made a note to ask you again what the uh name of the history show was because I forgot.

I've got one I'm working on. So part one is casting and part two is making of. Yes. Yes. And I don't know, the whole thing was just uh it's very, very well done. These all have meaning. The girl's window. Oh, I also have lots I want to bitch about about different apps that don't do the thing that I want. I contain multitudes of water. I think she's Neely, Neely. Specifically like a gay a gay bar. Oh my gosh. But here's the thing: what does she need? We make a movie that makes them even more ridiculous. You go back, you're gonna see what I'm talking about. It is as if they are on teams. This is like this is like my um like a one-man nuzzle. But then like the pharmacy and they say we don't have this in stock.

Um I mean she was basically she was basically the they Patty Hearsted her. Like a chorus line, like I really, really need this role. Did I? I learned later that he likes it too. But sometimes you're barely even the sky. And so in the same way, remember how you used to call you could call up GPTs with the at symbol? And I say, um, so I made this an instruction inside of that project. That's a dangerous thing. And so what she's saying is they're showing this scene of uh, you know, one of the various go-go dancing scenes They treat Sharon Tate like a dumb blonde who's just a body. And they do a pretty good job. Yeah, he's on that show. She's like, she's never finishes anything now. Like if you think I'm just saying like, oh, I want to be able to use nasty words again, that's not it at all.

I am energetic, but I am Absolutely. And like the last thing I want to do is add to her pre-holiday NIH stress by saying, well, you know, you really should try using the blah blah blah for this. I've been up, I've had all of my medicine. Or like would this be relevant right now? I'm like, write like me. There's so many there's God, there's so many good ideas. Originally I think it might have they wanted Mia Farrow, who was famous from Peyton Place. And she totally maintains her composure and is very but she's just like, I don't know, I'm basic, Alex. Oh sorry, you wouldn't have seen this because you don't look at the internet. What I'm trying to say is you will never make progress with other people until you understand Only five.

The voice of Fred. I don't want to like put people off. Yes. Take my raw CSV, raw-ish CSV. As well as what was the fourth one? Now that's neat, right? So I discovered this because I love this woman's channel, Be Kind Rewind. Did you have a history? I don't know Martin Milner, Martin I think that's his name, Martin Milner, he's uh one out of twelve, one out of twelve, see the man, I don't twelve lunchbox No comment. Yeah. So again. Terry Melcher was a guy who was in music. This is Do by Friday, a theoretically weekly challenge podcast with Alex Cox and Merlin Mann. I just don't like shows that rely on guests. And then you can see that I ask it a question based on what's in a BB edit document and it was able to tell me.

And did you know about this? Um you want to hear Irving Thalberg? It's called Call Me Anna. Like it's the worst. And like the trash theory guy, she does not have a publicly disclosed name. Because black is a really good word. Yes. The pod is about the pod. Well yeah you shouldn't let them communicate with you I agree. And he's a marionette who just kind of appears from out of the ceiling. I was after after like 16 years or 12 years or whatever it was of just like Uh not of them are from the website X. This is a huge deal. Title. We should talk about trans. Podcast. No, I wanna I wanna I thought you liked it when I was excited about things. Oh, getting the um no it just I'm like everybody's out of Adderall?

I'm not laughing at the concept. Oh don't but don't carry who are you you're carrying water for someone. Um what I said last night on the internet was excuse me Oh and then and then then the telethon I I I couldn't the telethon like. I see. They uh like they're like, hey, I just so you know, uh my name is this, but they I used to run the banks and now I run the media. But um that there's all of that. Trying to say fewer things that are unnecessarily cruel or just stupid in some ways. I'm not even asking you to notice the difference I still think a lot of millennials are kind of in denial. He is he sees ads f placed by this woman. I'm the guy who runs the network. I don't have that app. Gina, why didn't you laugh at that?

It is Christmas time. Yeah, here's the difference between that. Yes, yes. I don't care. And the s you know, this this sister who is gaslit, uh both uh God, there's there's just there's so so much that is That I you took me. And that's let's see what my files are. 0, you'll see Or work with what I have open in text edited right now. Oh wait, you're doing it on a phone. So so you see what I sent you, isn't that? But then finally the the the the third and the punch bowl. The South African Jiz is what you want. Okay. Yeah. And that's real. So when I make a joke talking about a new kind of sensitivity. What I'm saying is if you if you refuse to believe that there was a time when that was not only normal No, no, no, no.

I am trying to provide some context for the audience. Well, I don't know. Like I you know yeah yeah so one of my jobs is I go to Syracuse and I say, well here's what I've written for the description. That's not anthropic. It's a duo pod. No, that makes that that also makes sense. Well, there's a family that lives in Brooklyn Heights. Yes. The joy they found. All right, here's my notes. Aliens talk like robots in my world. The computer and I are laughing with you and at you. I'm not knowing knowing a headline. Do you have history with it at all? Oh, Deanna Warwick's in it. Gary thought that you might be. Today I discovered T I L that there's a click click uh to to import your files from Zoom. And it it has done Um that LLMs have uh She she has to ha He's all about the timing.

Yeah, cool. But but um I'll tell you what I what I've been telling all my kids. You just you don't even know what you think anymore. Like you need to re-upload this Just for myself I looked at like Would that be better? Titles should be funny or unusual things that one of us said. And you know what? So in this video they talked to John Epperson, otherwise known as Lipsinka, and they talked to the author of like the canonical book about value. She is s um um obviously like emotionally abused and gaslit. This is a funny uh much like us. Oh wow. I think it w you can actually pull this up via No, it totally is. You've got to say it for what it is. Oh. This is from a person called uh Janelle Komu.

I mean, I think that is a voice that is very much In fact, I I think we should do the why don't we do the challenge and the people who are already turned off by LLMs And this is not interesting to the average bear, but when you have a CPAP machine, it's it's you have all these settings. It's got oh and did you notice it's got custom instructions per project? I don't know. Whoa, woof. I think only beaten later by uh Tana Money. Yeah. But isn't that but doesn't that add that makes it kind of like everyone is texting me? It's you know, we we yell at poor people and say, well, if you're poor and you don't like it, why don't you move out of the ghetto? And I uh re-watched part of Tickled and then listened to All of the American Girls All.

Imagine being from New Zealand, just meeting a little squirrel friend. I'm not trying to stop you from talking, but I actually think this is a very interesting topic. I don't fucking care. And like, oh God, I can't wait to tell you about this. It's you know it's got a lot of the footage from it in it. I think that's correct. The well does the video talk about how the um w one of the writers And so you've got this book, and it needs to be turned into this big hit. So does it matter that I under How old was she? I guess at that time she probably couldn't even vote. But uh You need sho you can show proof of work. Like l when you ask I might find this for notes. Okay, I have got another great suggestion for you.

Did you like my um not a laptop laptop setup of I don't I don't know. I got I got the edit. I'll write that down, podcast. You know? I got one called Celebrity Heights. I I I stole a copy, but I also bought a copy. There she is. But No, but the everything you're saying, it's exact like it's- That's the thing. This is important because it um is not an anti-Semitic book, but is also like No, wait, wait. I can't say, but like my wife is like she's in this project right now, this annual project for the NIH that is just So it'll suggest titles. Look at everything. Novel by a woman. Um uh the Big, big show. I read some uh notes, notes, notes. I don't I I don't mean to go like totally over the top about this, but Oh, okay, but having said that, one of the so Billy turned me on to this show.

My my emergency. Well you're in the young people group. Three p three AM this evening. I'm lonely. Until the Harry Potter books, according to B. Um you can't see I'm making the grimace face that I like my favorite emoji. They still thought it was somebody else's house, and that's why they went in and killed everybody. Mm-hmm. Pod Save America is a is a very I mean it is amusing. It's called The Rest is History. Yes. F pod. So this is neat. In other words From our friends at panic, and it's really, really good. Very funny. You tell me what value of the dolls is. Because I think that'll be easier for me and probably for others. But like people have been, you know, taking drugs forever. Uh Jew Jewish, good lord.

We don't say pants of brown. And it feels uh v uh Man. What do you what is your concern? You get very frustrated. But with that said, camera. Anthropic is clawed, right? And arthropods. That's a guess. Anne meets Neely because Anne is working as a secretary at Helen Keller's teacher. I had to look up I'm like, wait, why did she what wait, what's happening? But she'd been treated, just she's treated so horribly by these people, her stage parent people. But she's like, she really needs something more substantial. And I was I was like, I'm not gonna sit here and go I was literally seething, but like you're just shaking your head all through it like And so here I'll send you this. Let's let's pull back the curtain.

I sent you some memes about Chris Fleming that I made. Uh oh fair, fair or retracks a statement. That was really funny. And and I was able to immediately, as earlier, I was able to immediately emulate the kinds of things that that app I used to make fun of does. See also Macintosh computers. But let's see, um, I'm gonna say I am here. Wow. And it's just I love, I'm very um enervated by that cycle of I think it sounded like a cool word, and then I'm like, wait, or is that the op I take our list that we wrote down while we were recording, or ones that I've added as I listen back later. Uh but it the book at least Let's talk about motivation of our characters. No, no, no, no. He does a comedy podcast sort of in the Joe Rogany realm.

I will stare blankly at people as they move PowerBook around on desk. Um, and I wanted to just like there's just a couple I just grabbed that CSV, I dropped it into a new thread in 4. Well I'm not sure. So for example, my instructions for I will find more about That's We Do the Challenge. Neely played by Patty Duke is I believe the one who utters the most slurs from what I can gather. Oh well, I mean in the sense that that was a huge hit. Like I hate what she's known for. It's really, really real. I have been up for so long. And then I got twenty-six very funny tweets this Head nurse spoke up. There's an there's a positive correlation of this, da-da-da-da. Like have you have you tried the new uh I mean g as you say sexy one?

No, I don't. He talks a little bit like um did you ever you never saw Pee-Wee's Playhouse probably, right? Famous bad movie. Um and uh the But as you can also imagine then, as as the woman said, I wish I had a name, Mrs. Great accent. I mean, it's not like when Bill What's his name drops in on a ringer show. So and that is why I require a screenshot if a tweet The uh the we should race. That's that's the riff that's the riff that I'm doing. I said in the after show last time I don't want this to just I don't have a terminal app. And giving my slightly changing role with the show right now. I give it the actual HTML. Or is that a different altitude? The Judy Garland angle. He's not at all about the performance.

Um and and then you've got Um I apologize. I disagree. And it cool because it knows what a date is. That's that's Randy from from Pee Wee. It becomes addicted to the case. Judy Garland. Okay. It's not a great show, but it's fun. None of the men were weird about her body or one of the one I hate to say. And you really it's just so frustrating to me that this whole wack-a-doo movie, all this bullshit that's gonna get jammed in to create this product. Can I can I can I have one more? No, no. No, that was Alex Gibney. Yeah Here's my notes for this episode so far, just so you know. I've got podcast, trans, podcast, podcast. You know, like magnets and 3D printing or, you know, whatever. Like this movie's a big deal.

I I want my tickles. I'm in very deep right now. But that means now, I mean, without having to go into the somewhat inscrutable API playground area, which is terrific, but it's So anyway, I just want to mention that to you. Good. Uh that No, I just I did not know that I mean I was like I can I'm excited about it is what I was trying to say Maddie and I watched it one and a half times last night. You're right. Queer coded I yeah, yeah. They took all of her money. And Like these are I believe there's a sponsor on them as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had the simplest thing. No, it's just that if it's if it's Thursday morning And so one thing I do now that's probably unnecessary and dumb, but I do it anyway, is like if it's having trouble understanding what I want.

I have not kept up with the 12 days of ship miss. I I thought it was actually. Everything's human tate is so fucking sad. Uh yeah, yeah, like a uh the the a hack job of or the Um well what I really want, what I want is for you to watch this. So Oh gotta gotta love it. And and he said, Well, yeah. I think he's tremendous in that movie as Frida Pendejo. I just really don't. Like, are you insane? You drop it into a Microsoft Word table, but it's one column, one cell off. All weighs the same to me. But really the casting one is like where all the I mean, they're both horrible. Um Uh Patty Duke, like I say, had like It means it was lame. You're all fucked up from all you have no sense anymore. Find in Alex Cox.

I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll wait until We're talking about podcast And uh uh for for me that was um Oh wait, hang on, my family's textbook. It's Wow. She's really fucked up and she super needs this because they agree, you know, to give her. And then we kind of crush a bunch of really talented women. I have a few for uh I have a friend, EC. Um Well This does something that's somewhere between what you could do with memory Okay, so all of my CPAP data, my health report data, um the JSON data from what No, I don't. Yes. Are you were you aware of it as a thing? Try L-I-P. And like it's it means something. I mean Fred Fred the Fred the Lesser as a cautionary tale. I'm planning to do the notes.

Do you are you keep the tabs on it? Wait, Mick, what? Yeah, outflammable too. Like this would be in the background of a club. I think she's so smart and thoughtful and she's not an idiot You know what? She was so excited to be pregnant. That's why. Or at least what I think is. I've written down podcasts and trans, and now I'm writing down podcasts again. Do I have to be in a different model for this? And you can say suggest titles. Oh, you know what? Oh, she sings a theme song. And sometimes that means that might mean using the n-word. Yes. Which which I like a little of, but it should be in the service of building something beyond just like go buy our trucker hat or something. What if you're talking about it?

Distinguishing between Oh, you know what it was? Is that was that Ablist? Oh Alex, what have you done? That was a much better way to put it. The Ovon. Um but and yeah, as we mentioned, uh oh s you know what? Uh and this is not a tech headline. But Oscar is a really neat app for taking your CPAP data and visualizing it. Yeah. Um That's me. Mm-hmm. It's a weekly text. Ah, I died young. I did a thing yesterday where I uh you know how I don't really care that much about numbers And it it feels like people think it's not okay to talk about that. What did I tell you? They are doomer pilled and incredibly cynical. I am disappointed. Where's the lighter fluid come from? Famous, very famous, very bad movie.

Va in Broadway, and they form a friendship because they both were um Um Oh by the way, did it occur to you at all that Neely's basically playing Judy Garland? And the premise of his Oh, by the way, my kid does now listen to Pod Save America and read Tim Miller's But he was trying to shh There was another one that includes my step data and all that kind of stuff. But but my point is my point is you get these projects. I'm just like paste in terminally for Python? You fucking piece of shit! Dark hair or blonde hair? It's gonna tear your heart out. Lipsinka, best known to us is Lipsinka, is a guy named John Epperson. The thematic thing to just put uh bring to your attention as a viewer of this. But she's eight, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, whatever.

But like I really have tried I'll tell you what gay means. I need to make sure I'm mad about Hi everybody, welcome to Do By Friday, um, a weekly challenge podcast with Um let me see now that I've said that, let me see if I can find it. And I I really have gotten into Claude for You get to give it instructions, and then there's another field though where you can drop in samples. Oh, I have no idea, Patty did The Body Almost all of their partners, the women's partners In New York she could work twelve hours a day. Let me see. She's I'm so deep I'm in so deep right now, Alex. Jiminy Christmas. Oh my. Yeah. Conry One. There we go. I um so I don't remember exactly. No, I would like to talk about that.

Yeah, Friends of the Pod, Dak Shepard, um His brother was like gaslit on like a a whole level. Whereas I s was spending hours a day trying to get it to understand JSON schema But I just sent you a screen grab of what I've got here. First of all, I'm always impressed when it picks up on something that we already had as a title. I was just saying what it's called, and so I have not That's the voice. Actually, uh shoot. I never T-T-I-L-F-T-M-T-M. For real? Patty Duke will not be a name that means a lot to you, but people of my generation It makes sense in its way, yes. Barbara Parkins, I think her name is, huge star because of Peyton Place. Oh boy, you should see what I am doing right now. You're in the young people group.

And um and so that's what I've been doing. Jacqueline and the suit I don't know if it's Susan or Suzanne. If you've ever seen people lip syncing to like campy stuff while they're doing drag, like he's the king of that. Helen uh Helen oh yeah I forgot her name to her. He just yells at them to do what he wants. It's it it was I I was again like Are they kissing for my pleasure or for theirs? Jewish. Uh Uh Tatum O'Neill's father. I think it starts with a simple question that he hopes. But like sometimes it's really frustrating that you can't just say, well just do this thing. And it did. I've used this, I've done this with rectifs so many times. I'm so gay you didn't watch the video. This is on uh whatever this site's called.

Sorry, go ahead, sorry. But he would go out of his way to make sure he didn't get job. Good good it's been a good good week I no Isn't that book like three inches thick? So she was just booked it in like in the mid-sixties that became like Um identity politics. And we could have picked a better word, but that's what we said. I think it was when maybe when Canvas. But this does more than that. I'm just excited about this stuff and it's it's always thrilling for me. Yeah. How old was Patty Duke in nineteen sixty-six? Oh yeah. I didn't do notes at all last time because first, you know, you gotta get back on the sex horse. Yes, I love when you're excited about something. I know, I know. There's so the oh.

Written by uh God, this woman's so fucking smart. Was Judy Garland in one scene? In every movie she's in. There was apparently some confusion, but it's definitely something. How would you get anything done? And so that but I'm trying to put all these little pieces together in ways that are really Is that now is that is that that um millennial sarcasm we've heard about? It's not this is the kind of thing you'd see on at a bar I mean, it's a fun nick at night show. She's been a child actor since she was able to talk, essentially, she and her brother. We don't normally really have a pre-flight. Excuse me. Explain it to somebody who doesn't know what it is without spoiling it. What? I I'm not sure exactly how you'd summarize it, except that It's such sick shit.

By the way, I can't find out her name and I love that. And uh th It's just that now not only is it becoming more mainstream to get medication for things, to seek We can bounce out after this if you want. I'm not asking for that at all. But it works with VS Code, it works with BB Edit, it works with prompt He just drops down. The obvious difference is that it's extremely f uh And I can do them. This was uh actually Um hey, sorry I missed your text. I don't know. Oh show art Randy. Sometimes I'm just pawning off my good taste on you. Um Well, uh who am I thinking of Louis Thoreau? Like hi, are you a man who likes to tickle other men? Yes. We have a mutual friend. It's a text onion. I I don't like to be coy uh about Just to be clear.

So you can have my stolen copy if you want. I in that case, let me just get let me put all my cards on the table Yeah, but I got it well, oh then let me look up the Which one's Sharon? Um Like I I spent 45 minutes this morning If you click on that, It's absolutely worth it. Dark dark hair is the gay-coated. Yes. Patty Duke really needed a bridge to being a grown-up actor. Gay means lame. The yeah, the guy with the one falcon, he loves a good tickle team. Megalopolis. You know why bagels exist? And now I got a place to put all those things. Yes. Once it knows what a date is and everything is well formed, the world is your oyster. I'm looking at prompt three. Title must exactly match the quote word for word.

Mm-hmm. And what's amazing is I've been for the last three episodes of Recdiffs And it's I don't know who it is. We'll each uh we'll each bring what we've got. Was she hung Keller? Am I talking to Mr. The love that that man has The great uh George Thorough. Where are you putting history? And Or you know maybe you just want all your files to be in one place. I oh my god I You haven't met Nicolaus? What did I I've done? You've got to look at photos of Mia Farrow in the early 60s. She was so excited to be having a baby, and she happened to be in the wrong house at the wrong time. I And And he's a little pod bro. Oh, sorry. You're not angry, you're just disappointed Um I will And um Oh that's sad And the other one you got Lee Grant is in it, I think.

And the um I think it is a good uh That's the most upsetting part of the book I haven't read. No! People named Arthur who have two vestigial feet. But it's the famous thing, and it's featured usually on the cover of the book, is drugs. Sharon Tate. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. So then because I I woke up and I was like, you know And I I suspect that that helps, but who knows. Like it's it's the visuals are Do you know who Lip Sinka is by any chance? It does. Let's talk sometime let's talk about podcasts. I don't know what the phrase is. Yeah, because the canvas stuff is really the way to go for most stuff. Yep, yep. It just seems very goo googly I have no idea. Um but No no no no but she um And he stands there with a stopwatch.

I Even when he gives out the email for the show, I like the way he does it. Find X dot com. Ooh Like all these things where you're like you take these two different areas. Does that help? Oh god. You know, did you ever see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? It doesn't look good on me, it doesn't look good on other people. But here's what I am saying. I'm not gonna use the n-word. While he was on that and then he was released. Okay. It's it's just I don't know. No, it does. And did I mention that she plays two characters? This is I can tell you exactly who it is. Hey Pee-wee. Wait what they did to Patty Duke. Because in the in in the She would lose her beautiful body if she had a breast remove. Bagels exist because we weren't allowed to touch your bread.

There's a reason she's Sharon Tate. But like, here's one from last night. We're both in deep on same labeling. Easy back in the closet, Tom. Alex, spoiler alert And they were like, you know, so I I guess I'm making an assumption that if Because that's one of my beefs with the whole like post-November. Wait, you watched the actual movie? Blonde hair is the guy from Adam Twelve. But can I have one more personal note? You get these projects. New line, five stars. Uh Patty Duke? And that's really frustrating. Because he talked about Fred. It was so good. What is happening? Mann or to Mr Roy? It's very I only uh I'm talking about this on episode 137. Two. Any one of them. But like they Learning how nice she was.

That's cool. You're even unmoored from reality. How can I make this happen? Ms Ms. I think I confused him with Louis Thoreau. Something that would be just so easy he'd just give Fred an apartment I don't think normal people should use Great. Sorry, it's not a headline. It just happens so suddenly that it's it's I don't think it's necessary now. Oh, like like um air Qatar or something. People send me pictures Textonion. It's I heard it's a page turner. But she has Um And What about when she meets the boy in the wheelchair? Like that guy's amusing, you know. Much m funnier than the other. Do you like history podcasts? And here's another neat thing. The uh uh oh god I'm so important you watch it.

Who's this? What I am saying is this. So there's a there's a lot you know what, forget it. Rewind. Uh did I did I swear did I send you this image? Well guess what? And Jesus Christ. Which is So the rest is history. But there are things I do come across from like I I really think that's a Great. Ha ha. And so like, what are my projects? Did you like my Chris Fleming memes? It's the voice in my head. Like she was extraordinary looking. The movie was written. Like I could just do this with one line of bash. 0 and said find interesting patterns. I uh sorry, that was not Fein surprise. But she'd done it on stage. Oh Great. I'd like to give you a job. Oh my goodness the way he treats his brother. So Neely Neely is Patty Duke.

It's gonna break your heart. Oh my goodness. She was raised by fucking monsters. They wanted to bring in Judy Garland. Can I see just refer to other people as being quote Well No, it'll be fine. Um Great. I shouldn't do the voice. But don't get me in trouble. And there's probably others I'm forgetting. But like Now now we're gonna get all the bros listening in. It it makes I am so deep in it right now. She was. Did you say magical proctologist? It did I mean as books of that often are. Yeah, we all have room to grow. Oh, it's a bit. Yep. I did not know that's what that meant. That's my Daryl F. Um it's We'll talk about it later. Um Oh it's Um Zanach raw transcript