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I think there's a top I think there's a few episodes. I'm like, I have time. I'm not that interested in sports. Who it works in the world. What are they like Georgians? It's one of those episodes, huh? Matt Walsh is such a gift. Is it about industrialization? And I don't know if that's true, but it it feels pretty close to a lot of experiences from people I know where like the thing they want to do least in the world. So this can't obviously be improv. That's the thing, is the the way that they trust each other, the way that David Lynch trusts us, the way that I trust you and hopefully you trust me. I feel like you're missing the thread a little bit on what this is about. If I make a joke to somebody about opening your wallet and discovering it's full of blood, that's funny to that person.

Bar sent to it's like where you enter, like it's like it's that whole hallway where you walk into a stadium. If a Matoria. Dressed as Pogo the Clown, which is a horrifying his makeup is was just horrifying. He's so he's gone full in now. I don't know the birthday boy. Oh wait, is this something like conservative people are mad about? Oh no. Turn any direction the entire time. That you'll be in and it's funny because it's not funny, it's just the way life works, but I was literally as as as young people with comedy glasses like to say, um, I was listening to Phil Collins just this morning. I was listening to Phil Collins right before we got on this call. Anyway, do you know the story? Did you know that?

Play the rest out Jess Brick. It's really I bro. Yes, it's not a good thing. Like does this get the thumbs up? behind a scrim in the ceiling. This is all made up. You could get some gland. So what's your hang up with the African children? Oh yeah, I I could have just come in here and said, hey Marilyn, I'm really sorry that I'm late. Which one of you? I'm trying. And you were helping a neighbor with their car battery. Oh, it's gonna be one of those episodes, huh? It's correlation, not causation. Emily Dickinson poem. There's a yellow rose in Texas, this bitty bee-b. I did not think I know I love Ezra Klein now. you you try to use it as leverage to triangulate some other thing that's not meaningful.

W because it looks like you may be just smiling, but like the way it looks on on on a website is that you you really do look like y you look like somebody's trying to put something in your butt. It's funny about boobs. Foghorn and not this incomparable nonsense on that show. Is this anecdote good for the program? I am happy to play in the space, but I think every space I need a safe space, Merlin. Well those rich men in different cities are doing stuff I assume is bad. And that's and that's when people would de okay, so I love having memes explained to me. Is this good for the show? And and um she sh uh Tina's barbecuing and in and sets his house on fire. But yet I still ruined two bumpers. Oh.

How how Tarzan the c Phil Collins Tarzan soundtrack goes extremely hard for uh w what was going to be a like one and done Disney movie. Phil, we just wanted you to do one song. Oh yeah, that's mo mu m m more based. Uh but it's also got the song behind the lines, which is pretty good. And in the like an arrangement, it's not exactly a Jackson Five song, but it's very close to like an I Want You Back style song. However, like you've seen this, like when you listen when you're listening to tapes and you hit the cue and it goes they discovered the weirdest thing, which is like there was kind of a song within the song, which is like when you listen to Behind the Lines by Genesis. Help you enjoy their music more.

I don't know, it's not like you need to uh enjoy uh uh uh Nirvana more knowing uh the f the fun ending of that band, but i uh it's for all of this horror to seep into your life because you are biologically predisposed. Yes. Did you s hun? Oh, you don't say oh mac mac. Uh do we do what's the other thing? Yeah, I didn't realize that the part part of the reason why thousands were closing was because Frozen screen. And I've discovered the softest of the soft is the Blackwing Matte M-A-T-T-E. And then what I do is I squeeze the the the grabber thing, the metal thing around the eraser and then push it back in and it should stay at that length that you like. I also just realized something. Do you want me do you want me to g make you a PowerPoint?

But uh Yeah and Dave's and Dave's the big wheel. uh have have for years done a live improv show where the two of them just walk out on stage uh with no preparation and start talking. Yes. I don't know. about what it means to be a person who makes art, uh, in my mind. There's a way in which you out there who regard yourself as funny will say, well, I could make the It is, but like it's but it's more symptomatic. This divorce is tearing us apart or whatever. But it's it's v utterly uncollaborative. And of course there's a resurgence in people wanting to have public demonstrations of how much they love David Lynch, which is fine. Like I you know, I've I I everything I know is is from working with David Lynch.

It's fun and it's funny, but I really feel for the guy because in my own small way I've been in that position of having to try to explain ineffable things to people that aren't that really that interested in the answer. And what he tries to say is people's like, well the the movies what it is. uh just daydreaming, introspection, uh doing TM, uh transcendental meditation, uh and and dreams, all these things, and how he just tries to dive deeper and deeper and deeper into things that that really Because I don't try to write it as a story. uh in this case is to just give you the the hard facts. And like if he wanted to write that in words that you understood, he could do he would have done that.

And that can get boiled down to something as, you know, dogger all like say yes and, but there's something deeper going on. which then became hugely influential, really especially Gauguin, on the cubists. And and um he would say things like more wind or more elvis. say uncharted experience. In it's not in that many cases. and insightful. It's saying like when the way this is shot, the way Greg Toland set up this shot, you will see Charles Foster Cain I had to have a camera go through a physical table to be able to show Charles in the front yard playing in the snow at probably forty feet away and Agnes Moorhead's face at about a foot away. Ex see, you know, it comparison's the death of joy and explanation is the death of art, uh, to me.

they would have to like basically be in a hole in the floor. It's the in his actors, his talent, his tech team, but it's also Alex Trust in his audience. debate slash argument for like two hours after about what what was going on in that movie. you know, go out and be funny and do Adam Sandler bits. And you think, oh, this is just like, you know, these guys are just government. It's it's really almost like you're just watching somebody warm up. There's a stage. You enter the stage, the lights are up, applause, applause, applause. As I like to say to my child, you're watching the same show I am. when the when the uh when the performers, the two performers, will be playing not only different characters, they usually do that by being in a different place, but they'll also do a thing that's really gonna twist your melon.

Which is like there might be a scene and they're not gonna tag and like do a big herald thing. And he'll see something in my eye. And I haven't watched them all. But as much as I ac I am I do come to improv as a consumer and fan, I come to it for the comedy. I don't think I'd want to watch too many shows where a bunch of improv improvisers come out and do improv about improv. Like I I would not like that at all. I misunderstood what this was, but then you played off of the way that was changing. I think it's Dave who says, you know, uh because we trust each other and all the good interesting things that you said about trust, pretty much all that is at the end of the documentary. even if it's somebody on their deathbed, if we would we walk into the room and it's like, oh my gosh, Mr.

And just does it as, you know, a favor or an obligation. from the not that much snow, but I I c I feel weird complaining about the weather because you know what? Oh yeah, like uh it's I I bring this up because when you're going from uh I was actually with our friend and uh you go from like a fun, chill deli place to suddenly like a nice Hi. And I told you that I f I know, I know. Oh this is why I'm not this is why we're not TJ and Dave. car battery, but it uh it no no no. No, I It's a shame that you miss out on that because I think you'd really enjoy it. Yeah. Meaning name one. That I shoot at my partner. It's Kawanus here again. Much smaller clown playing the Calliope. I mean just to like take a a a relatively funny fifty year old joke and and and ruin it.

It's just that uh eventually a woman came and ruined it. No one says it like you're too close to it. I know. Comical glasses? person I can name you no. Yeah. What it's just uh nothing, nothing. because it's not one of the approved social media platforms. Um but the um Optics and Design. Sherry, before that, I was apologizing to you because when I was I I thought that, oh, I can be on time to recording. I'm not gonna look at horns on Amazon. Or you ask some kind of a leading question. I don't know. And an expectation about what you've decided how you decided you'd like to be. She gets she gets behind Do you remember this? Uh yeah, I was fifteen and so not uh it was far past Tina age. at the bottom car?

Uh I mean v vaguely. that I like a lot, that I've mentioned on some podcast recently. And so they did the song. Genesis drama the same way there was Beatles drama I don't think you do. You can kind of just, you know, go off the back of that, ride the caravan into the river. wanting to be at home and with his with his young family. suddenly decide to say, oh, trans people aren't real, and I was a lesbian who was brainwashed. Almost I think two episodes. Well yeah, I mean how cute is it when Ziggy uh pulls out his dick on top of the bar and then he has a duck that gets drunk. I also thought that Hooters for some reason was a strip club. There's a dessert room at Hooters. Yeah, uh well, really little in comparison to John Wayne Gates or to yeah, well I regretted it as soon as I said uni.

Do you really do that? And usually, I mean, that can mean different things. It is what the pilot seven was uh like that used to be my pen. I used to use that in the early 2000s. I think that was good for the show. Uh w w the idea with the Blackwing eraser is that once you've gotten it down like to the nubb nubbin and it looks like you've used it all, you're supposed to be able to pull up a little bit more and this there's this little metal fastener. That grabs the eraser, and that's what holds it in place. But uh the challenge for this week was to watch a documentary that I like, and it is called Trust Us. Oh God. It's T J it's TJ and Dave. But as I as I said uh in coming up with this challenge, 'cause I this is one of my favorite movies about making art, uh th that the um I I loved middle diction shorts, those three specials they did on Netflix that I've watched endless numbers of times and and quoted.

I mean everybody remembers Short Paul. I, especially the first act of that movie, I like the performance a lot, because you gotta ask yourself, do you want the job or do you want the story? worked with Chris Farley. Uh it's a lot of people. Alright. No. Not Del Close, I guess, but like in Second City, the Compass Players, right? Or for that matter, Jerry Seinfeld, or any stand-up in how they approach versus somebody who does improv. No. Everybody else is just trying to take the class. uh in Chicago at least. And yes, yeah. You know, it's so fun to watch Veep and get my kid my kid gets to like discover, you know. Hmm, not just like that, he was super interesting, but like in some cases to some extent why David Lynch was so interesting.

The segment is where, let me just find it. David Lynch is very generous about talking about his process. And you just look at it. the special things that make us make art. That was always that would be his note a lot of the time. But that's there's so much there's so much profundity in David Lynch's work and in the work of good improv people and in and arguably maybe not in this documentary. You know, you've you've got the right boat, you've got the right equipment, but if you have any interest in getting further into the depths of that body of water in a way that's not visible to the naked eye This sounds so weird. in the d the craziest deep focus you've ever seen. But then if there's a change in tone, he goes and he walks back over to the windows.

Now telling you that fact built a floor to get it. He's not in the business of explaining things to people who can't be fucked to actually pay attention and have a feeling about it. I can't tell you, like my my remember my girlfriend and I uh saw it at Blue Velvet, actually a bunch of us uh saw Blue Velvet in the theater, and we had the most spirited Something that makes him do very bad things. What does the kink in the hose represent? you know, print the legend. It what's in the tank is in the tank. in the green room and you see that they have so much trust. If if I would say, well, if you know what improv is, like, yes, you will understand what they are talking about, but when they are You know, th they the uh there's a statistic that went around for fifty years that I don't think anybody ever bothered to check.

in a lot of ways. But they're just standing there. Is that the line? Here are these astronauts? And suddenly the manager is the secretary. We'll know pretty quickly. things that require that level of trust and and I love that. the show and immediately as they come off stage and they don't start talking about like was that funny or not But the technicalities just of theater and like did when I was switching characters, did I do that, did that right? to make the connections to those kinds of things apart from your wedding day and the day somebody dies. Uh well, and you see that trust. Uh well, who do you g I mean, obviously not on screen people aren't asking questions, but there's talking heads and someone's asking them questions.

ever an improviser. But at the very, very end, after they've, you know, done their cool down cooldown in the green room and there's just shots of the empty theater. Yeah, and then he says yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? they go on to have uh lives and marriages and divorces and have kids and uh uh die a natural death or die in a horrible accident. Poor Claire! Yeah. I'm good. Oh I would you like some for the whole table? And, you know, uh they're starving children in out Africa that don't even have diversity. Mm-hmm. Whip it's like whiplash. God, uh starving children in in Africa don't know what vomitoriums are. uh uh not upscale but like sit down, someone comes to your table, they do a little things a little bit differently there type of place.

Maybe you like basements. Yeah. Emily Dickinson. But uh what I do notice is that sometimes I've discovered in the last year or two that there are things that h that he said a few months ago that I was like, mm at the time and a few months later I'm like, hmm, that was Kinda true. He it was like there was like a handful of people, him, you know, David Axelrod, there was like a handful of people in the tribe who were all like, look, people don't want to vote for this Or is after girls in comedy glasses. All right. Anyways, uh what were we talking about? This is why I have uh only taken two acting classes and they have both been so against my will. And co-host to everything you do, ask yourself, is this good for the show?

Help someone with their car battery. almost zero miles per hour starts driving toward the only car in the parking lot. That means something in your community too. Engaged and my worst habit, which was putting on I'm like, everything will be fine. Almost the same situation but but in reverse. in the driveway, you just got your permit. leaning into the popness of their prog and it's a fucking great record. Whilst they were recording it, you know, sometimes you gotta fast forward, you gotta rewind. Enough funny. And they make a lot of money going on talk shows and especially if they're pretty oh ho ho ho yeah, yeah. It's just it's but it's bonkers. I I was on the internet before I was on the internet.

uh used to be Masha now M. Little clown plan of Calliope. Well and and and his uh guest. You ever seen an origami clown? Of the uh debacle with the digital screens on the frozen or at least colds, like r the refrigerated section or whatever. That is like the only pen my entire family uses now is I just buy twelve packs of those pens. this but I don't want to start it hey everybody um you can go to give us your fucking money dot com and that'll lead you to a Patreon page uh where you could choose to give us money. Um uh when we record, we do this episode and then we also do a bonus episode that you can get. Around it, right? and uh uh uh underrated and also more difficult than I think anyone thinks unless you've done it a whole whole lot.

Um I don't know. People like Joan Rivers who have thousands of index cards of jokes and are like, or you know, sort of like basically sort of like Deborah and Hacks, you know, like you've you've got you've No. Uh Twin Peaks, I guess maybe most famously. The d David Lynch well first of all if you are any kind of a fan of David Lynch and are are interested in like what he does, there's a thing that's been happening for Or what does what what is it that's in Frank's tank in Blue Pooh? Maybe kind of what it felt like. Where he's saying, you know, he was very he he just was very generous to work with. He wanted them to be in on the process, including the audience. but it is what you see on the screen and the only thing apart from that that's of any importance is the process of how you got there.

how to do this scene or explain how he should feel in this scene. In part because they are very tuned in to very they're very tuned into some ineffable qualities of human communication and interaction and thought and process and all of those things. It's there because this is how we this is how we painted the Habsburgs in the 1600s. you know, a uh it's just a tube and a little hat, and that's the house. that gives us a clue that I mean it's one thing to ride around on a boat and like feel like you've really mastered the top of the ocean. They maybe are kind they're kind they're, I guess, technically the people who consume it, but they're the people who talk about it. is I think he does something that is very rare and certainly very rarely well done, which is Roger Eber can sit there and for the two hour whatever it is runtime of Citizen K and be comment commenting the entire time.

Like he seems small, but then as he moves toward the camera, it really exaggerates how large Orson Wells, how how big that guy is and how big Charles Foster Kane is. Doesn't even have to be a good week, a bad week in any there's just I think in life we benefit from moving toward these kinds of things that get us get us closer to the things that make humanity so interesting and the getting to join people on the journey of talking about that, not necessarily explaining that. And maybe like certain people you know, he'd like to be able to pick his audience. Just listen to m no, no, no, no, no. Yeah I was like oh I got so and my favorite part is maybe the five like start And so, you know, uh we mentioned this last week, but just just so you know, well, the way that this works, to understand like why this is interesting, I think.

Well, accepting of course the fact that they have years of experience and trust each other. We're not going to this other place over here where like you've watched this six times and you like to tell your friends about the funny end. Put differently, TJ and Dave realize it's a workplace. And it's not. And if you wanted to try to boil it down to something that's like a a a hot life hack takeaway, you'd see him describe he's describing how but like deep they're like, we'll look at each other and I'll see something in his eye. We have somewhere we're gonna go with this. Better, but are weirder and more they might have chosen that one because it worked with you know the the point. Like you, you know, trying to put all of these constructs and models on things are very useful for talking about all kinds of things in life.

trust and that interest in really not it's not that you have to become a weirdo, but in not shying away from the things that defy easy explanation. And like I just I'm very drawn to that world and I'm very drawn to the other people who are drawn to that world. the film to just showcase more of that. and how it does not affect what they are that I apparently what the filmmaker was trying to do was to show that what they uh well I was like I'm like this. There was t there's two. Yeah, but he's when he's like shielding his eyes from the lights. to just be dropped into a l s something like he says something like we are dropped into a little piece of time. Um I I don't I I want to be I want to engage with the social mores of whatever is going on.

I I mean uh uh I don't know, Alex, what do you think is your worst habit? I no no no because I was outside uh helping um yeah because in Chicago we have weather and uh I told you I was forgive me, but the listener probably made that connection. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, your clown tell me that you read every Bible I've got and your clown can sing S yep, yep, yep. Uh be real careful. Yes. Oh okay. I I don't I probably didn't. No woman there has ever uh heard that sound or that joke before. Oh my landlord's fine. No. Yes, but And it's a grift. Why don't you go ahead and maybe maybe schedule that third class? Often I've got I love this question. But it just gives some direction feeling what was going on and the whole gourtney love stuff and Um people who w didn't necessarily get very far in their transition That's the only good Boris.

Um much like I didn't realize cutting a blowfish in a perfect way was the only way you could eat it without being poisoned, be because I thought that was just a Simpsons bit. Uh what was the question? Mmm. Like like the the Dickerson pencil is really good, but like is what it's way too light for most of what I like to do. to like um I how would you describe the way to be the right length or to be because the idea with a black wing eraser is I I didn't might. the worst improv partner you could ever imagine having in Michael Scott. Um I just I felt like I'll be assertive. Well you know what's even better is something you can read with your eyes. 45 years? cannot be and probably really oughtn't be described with words.

And I think David Lynch was really especially gifted at that. In the absence of the curiosity that makes you explore interesting art, I don't feel the need to explain to you that I'm really good and here's why. And then Van Gogh saw that. Like seeing those little huts that are basically just cut down to objects as simple as children's blocks. And that is very I I mentioned that, sorry for that long um derail, but that's why I like this movie, is because I think these two guys are so good at what they do. Final thing, another thing, I said this in that in that thing I posted. He goes, what is what is it in that in the in that tank that Frank Booth is inhaling? Well, I mean, I don't know. Right.

Listen to me so closely. Uh I I can tell we've started to connect on something. The question that severance asks, who am I? Then there's, you know, a I could I could imagine having fascinating conversations between the two of them of like, oh, it's g it ended up being good that's it. You we see this as a performance we get to watch and rewind, but I would say you'll in potentially enjoy it more and enjoy it more deeply by realizing you're in the room with two people who are making something up, trust us. Whatever's happening ha it has already started. Well, have you have you heard of the other thing? This is great. uh, the one with where she's driving in the parking lot. I don't know, the same way you find out how someone is oh no, no, okay.

Season five is definitely no season one. But like p grab the eraser and pull it straight out, yeah? Are you mad? a story about how to make art, I think you should sort of explain what the art is that these people make and just saying, oh, Dave tell you anything. Um one of the things David Lynch apparently he would give these crazy directions to Kim McLaughlin, like he would to everybody. Um it's emphysema for your brain. W the green room onward, when they're just dicking around and uh playing with the darts Like well, I mean they're very mild, but but um people the idea so imagine this though, right? Nothing happens. But that but D Dave says that. people ask qu an interesting questions. I d okay hey Siri pause finally love mine Oh that didn't work that didn't work Hey Merlin Man how are you good how are you There's there's many different different vibes.

I am absolutely the last person you should ask for help and I was. I've heard that and I don't believe it. Uh let me see if I can find it. Old man. And I've said this before. Uh this is the year that I find out who Zach Cherry is. I used to love the wings, but now I can't go because men go honk honk. Not Chico, uh Harpo. Uh like isn't that a coincidence? I think of it as being a more, you know, Charno Halpern, Del Close kind of way. I I try to be sensitive to people's concerns about spoilers. things that I never intended for people to have to hear explained. You have to be a little bit of a wanderer. hold them in our hand, they and like turn them into things that we can understand logically, they turn to dust, as they should, because that's not the business that we're in.

It is, it is admittedly to me anyway a relief when after probably three minutes, after after a minute or so, you realize it's a workplace. Why they didn't get it, and now we're not even friends. Not everything is everything. Oh first time in my life I heard him uh say wow you really fucked up and I'm like yes and yes I did peepaw. very fast. That answers, all right. It's a union season. Mm-hmm. You don't know that story. Yes. So I believe that if the art is good enough, it can't be spoiled. Can I spoil Citizen Kane? And uh I don't remember the other guy, but they're all tack sharp. You think they haven't made a joke yet. He's not looking at a group. I told you that I was uh we don't say that anymore.

The last person. What are comedy glasses? Anything is interesting if it's told in the right way. It depends because there's kind of two. I've misunderstood more about Russian literature than you've ever known. Oh interesting. It's beloved and I think in a in a satisfyingly comedy nerd way, it's influential in ways that probably are not apparent to people who are not comedy nerds. An improv fit is generally frowned upon. There's a thing that all of those individuals share, and that's trust. Who's ever asking the these men questions wants the answers that they don't want to give? All you know is there's these two people talking. That was like a fancy thing to do. We've been working on this this script for weeks.

It's ruined. And uh, you know, and she likes showing off her her triceps and sh and she wears like a sleeveless thing and her glasses uh she she has a different kind of glasses. I don't know, man. Just get a horn. Detransitioning is you're saying I started transitioning, but really that would still be transitioning. It's it's critical to our relationship, I think. It's one of your favorite movies. Yeah. What? Let's think about the troops, helicopters, gender, the disenfranchisement of the Virginias. You'll be in my heart. Yes. Not a PhD. Uh no, because it's all implementation. And even all that dumb stuff I just said right now and all that bap babbling, like I'm not I'm not of course I want to sound smart, but uh even more, what I'm trying to say is there are ways that we can talk about There's a name for that.

I mean I am pretty cruel to myself already. You remember that? I'm the one that has to added this shit. Oh frozen, I thought you meant as in like refrigerated cases. I've completely destroyed this pencil. Lights come back up. Like I I felt I got the willies watching this because you see these two guys come out and just stand there and look at each other. And then Dave cut to the reverse shot and it's he's kind of like nodding. That does kind of sound like a a delicious sushi fish. Oh this is just how you want to be. They're Chechens? Was it and again I don't want to have either of us feel like we're on the defensive about this. That's such a that is a really good insight. I'm like a uh neighbor.

Oh, see? Delicious sushi fish. I have no I I arrive with no baggage. That's not true. It's part of my messaging. Just actually instead of fucking around, there's something on your mind. Um Mrs. He's gonna play shortstop, player manager. Wow, that must be such a peaceful life. This is really good. You want to be really careful not to look like you're a screaming insane person in your funny photo or your emoji. Do you ever see the one where Michael Scott goes to the improv class taught by Ken Jong? I'm telling you why it's good. It just keeps moving with these same two characters. What's the matter? There's a song there's a song on the dictat Is he a dick? See, that's interesting. Can I bring you the dessert menu?

I thought you had a preference. That's the that that was a joke about what Joan Rivers said when she was in Del Close's class. I don't I don't I don't know but specifically in this instance in the movie the and the show that's in the movie I instantly as much as I love performing and why it's the only thing that makes me feel alive And then things start to happen and they assume and I always feel like you gotta tell people, I do feel like it's important to tell people, just be ready for this. And we're I guess we're trying to get him to go to clown heaven by killing him? Oh, this is so fucking boring. It c they were like, this kind of sounds like a Jackson 5 song. Mm-hmm. I haven't gotten an eraser down.

There's this small stage and this, you know, what do you call black box theater, right? You get some gland into your uh oh ohomakase. Not only is he saying important is he saying important Fuck you Syracuse. Yes. Beforehand I'm like, you're responsible for this. Nope, nope, nope. Yes. I don't want to say directly because I don't have a way to know. It's such a good story. Which is people go, oh David Lynch, your movies are so interesting and they're so arty and they're so so weird and but like what do they mean? Is it about the fear of growing up? Nobody's trying to trick you. It had to be. I mean I'm not a a masochist. We'll drop guided by voices lyrics to each other, like uh or uh God speechy black emperor yesterday.

All I need to do is go upstairs and plug in my computer. I'm not interested in internet drama. I just like to see. And I was like, no, no, no, no. She's going because all of us know she will somehow hit that car. So is it a joke that conservatives make? Start-off improvisers, there are builders and there are bomb throw throwers and uh the bombers. He's so goddamn funny. That deep voice at the beginning of Upright Citizens Brigade. But what he ends up doing in his job, the art that he makes, is he can not only tell you what's good, you don't think you don't want to know what's good. Didn't what did Gene think? I know there's a name for this fish. I'm not yes and I'm not T. Yes. What about that?

Corpse. Like why I feel like I feel like you're trying to steal my identity in like a larger existential way. It's funny as a callback to a clown driving a van that has a calliope in it. No. It does uh uh because there probably is a way, I just I'd never heard it phrased that way. So do I. That was a good pen. Okay, I'm just writing down frozen screens. Chechens? Like it's I don't want to talk about it because there's not time. He's a real doctor. No, I no no. That's why the ceilings are so low. When TJ immediately goes up out on stage, he says something that I have heard a couple performers talk about, but never. John Wayne Gacy's probably the last person he's. Hail Hardy. So I can ask you a question.

Need a Tarzan. You said that you loved how they talked about creating art, and but the way that the documentary I didn't say that I said it's one of my favorite movies about making art. I think Roger Ebert is definitely an exception that proves the rule, but like there's not that many people. That is about as good as an an answer as anybody could give. He says I like to look at the audience because I remind myself This is like me talking about video games. I've tried to explain this to John Syracuse and why his current profile photo is so bad. Gesson. Well, that was part of the appeal. I also have one of those right here, but I think that the eraser is a conspiracy. And uh and in that clas Michael, hilariously, because the people writing it are like people like Mike Sherer and all those people are comedy nerds, they r basically wrote like Maybe I'm being simple, but this person thinks enough of what those two are doing to want to have insight into what it is that they're doing.

Yeah. But so maybe I'm maybe I'm just being vulnerable and um maybe I'm seeing too many threads through things that aren't really there. I don't know how to act at restaurants anymore. See? Yeah, yeah, right, right, right, right. I saw I saw him I saw him do play pogo at at the Kiwanis Club and he seemed really nice. Are you okay? You keep talking. Luckily they were both family cars. Like w I f d I don't know if most people know what that means. Just don't So you start you ate you ate dinner at a deli and then you went to like an omakase table. Oh trying to match your energy. Um this uh does not go past me and you comedy Honk honk. Harris here to scare us. Use your nail again to put alternately on each side to just open up the tiniest bit because there's a little tooth in there.

I I wanna hear about uh No no it's fine. You're the one who's gonna bring what it feels like. You're you sound like you sound like you sound like you feel like you've sinned. That's not I don't dwell upon If I were a clown and you were in my basement and and you were like one of my really special guys, like uh do you have a particular it doesn't have to be the Bible. Does Frank say that or Ziggy? Do you have it in front of you? You made fun of me once for saying it in the wrong order. I'm a little bit mad at this documentary, yeah, because when you're setting up He's, I guess, trying to show you things, but he's not in the business of like making a movie and then like doing a commentary that explains what it's about.

It's just faster and more intense. They're just trying to f they're trying to remember their lines or something, like to be callow about it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's right. Which which tells me uh Joe Biden should get the fuck out of this uh this race. You were you were mad about something a comedy glass. I do. I think this could be a Dali week. I'm just I'm whatever it is you're doing, I'm I'm I'm theoretically here. I always remember it's TJ and Dave because I'm like, why is it TJ and Dave? I write it as a series of incredibly concrete images. Because I could not stop for death, they kindly stop for me. Uh-huh. Oh, you know comedy glasses. I know this is all this is a clear Chris Fleming joke, but it's a different Chris Fleming joke.

The Chechens? Yes. And John Rivers goes, d what do you mean divorce? Moving things. And when we talk that's why we when we talk about art, it sometimes sounds pretentious because a lot of the times the people who are talking about art are not the people who make it. And that's what Frank breathes, and it makes him do bad things. Nobody says anything. It's probably less than this. She wasn't sitting there and going, like, Ooh, there'll be this song in the future about the cowboys will sing, and I will write poems for that. Uh-huh. You did not need to bring us two CDs of material Oh my god, these CDs are so heavy. If you look like M. Just m mute that is No, I had to blow my nose. It's like but like the implication is like, you know, we like to think that every scene starts when we walk into it in life.

Um I think that I'm educated. No, I say that, but people are like, yeah, but what about bah what about the opposite of empty set? I love that this is the year where we're all gonna finally realize how great Zach Cherry is. I can already feel the question and I love it and it's not. Uh the cr uh uh crime and punishment pun. Why is always Boris? I'm not a pencil enthusiast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just as easy. There are now the same two men standing on stage. Like, we don't know. Yeah. It was never a bit. Like I gay I I basically provided emotional support. Don't know who Lily Collins is. Click click. So the point is just let me get through the intro. I would like to know why it is one of your favorite movies about making art.

You may, if you're simple. Immediately after they get off stage, they know what was good and w what wasn't, and I wanted I just wanted to apologize. Oh okay, yeah. Okay. Well I was raised in the chastity belt. This is this is how you decide this is what you decide is good for the show. Is this good for the show? Oh my God. I I I would love to learn. The secretary is the manager. Did they seek you in particular out for this? It was a different person this time. Shh. Like but but like that style of improv I I feel like is pretty influenced Ah, gotcha. He had the titular line in Star Wars. Also, let's just let's just get another thing out of the way. No, it was originally written. I apologize. Yep.

I'll show you how to back it up, back it up in a new way. It's a little bit pretentious. You know, climbing up on Salisbury Hill. You might be thinking of Barry. Like there's nothing in that museum, well, sort of stuff made in the last forty years. Somebody once asked, reportedly, I've never been able to track this quote down, but it's too good to check. That's the part that I really love in the documentary part is him just saying that like we have this trust in each other. And because they trust each other so much, I don't know if this is an exact quote, but they're they're basically saying like I love that too. And that i I don't think I sorry, I know most performers don't do that. Jill the Jill said Ezra as was his name, Ezra Strong.

Um but he does that thing w when he's got a very you know, he's written one of his very important essays and then he reads the essay and then he drags in uh one of his employees to act like they're interviewing him You know exactly what I mean. I just saw that there's a sports organization that's told the member teams that they're not allowed to use Blue Sky Like you you just b kind of kind of look. You gotta go fund me about putting your dick back on or something? She gets behind it's one of the most classic uh so sounds ever. You claim you've seen Chrisforming Hell, but I don't think you have. Yes. Kam McLaughlin's piece in the New York Times about David Lynch, which I thought was really good.

You can't sweat it, man. Is that true? That song that song Salisbury Hill that Peter Peter Gabriel wrote that about leaving Genesis and about like You were on the internet before you were on the internet. Gesson, you're probably you're probably not gonna gonna get a lot of Rogan interest. Oh edge. Tell me I'm good. And I wanted Alex to watch it so we could talk about it. Um there are ways and there's certainly there are shortcuts, there's communication. Is this are these brothers at a funeral? There's a Simpsons episode about it. I believe well I I Well it's a it's a it's it's it's a uh Any help with your battery? That's the name of my new uh country rap guy. I personally I think that's a really good movie and I like the soundtrack.

Distr he uh he basically wants the everything to turn into like he's Michael Skarn and he's the guy who's gonna pull a gun on you. Is it about the fear of having a child? I'd I hope so. To your point though, I think one of the best, one of my favorite anyway, I don't say best anymore, one of my favorite parts of the movie is around that time. I just don't know what it is yet, but because I trust this other person No. S. Oh okay. Because I I think probably the cloud would be smaller than the guest too. And so you just loosen it a little bit on each side and pull up to the length that you want. Like he not he not only his job is not really so much to tell you uh that it is good, he's s he's extremely good at at They put microphones and lights behind a muslin so that they could shoot anywhere in this one building.

They don't know either. Right? We are clowning again. And and but I don't mean like, oh, he's got like a chart. I d I try. Elliot. You need to put some clothes on. God. Uh uh. Which which some people hate, but I think it was good. I or do you use it in either omakase or your or your bukkake? Oh um I like challenge. It's yeah. I thought this is up there with Yes and as like one of the most famous improv things. Can I spoil Seven Samurai? And not why it's good as in like, well, you know, this is really playing on this Hegelian idea of the tripartite nature of man. I can't watch that much improv comedy. Remember that song Kawanus? And I'm not interested in like internicing battles about pieces of technology.

Ugh. If you know what I mean? If I say that to you in 40 minutes, will you remember what it's about? But it's very similar to the things that Dave and TJ do, but TJ and Dave, but but they do it in a in a more classic like He's like thirty feet away and as he there's so many scenes where he starts out in a very diminished force perspective. Is that the idea? No. Well, you realize you've made a mistake and correct it. And you know, there were pals. You have to be a little bit of a philosopher. And um I really liked the part of this movie at the beginning, especially I loved, of course I loved the performance, but I just I love the part where they talk about their process and just And they're not sweating it.

But it felt like it had to be 20 seconds. I don't know if he's got like a calliope. Oh man, I have so much stuff I want to talk about with Stop the Madness. Um you I I Will it be a jumping off point to talk about something else that's interesting? You're more connected than I am. A lot of people don't know. Like like haha f funny or or is i I was asking the. Who says Boris? That's probably because did you not know there's a little grabby tooth? Yes, tell me. Well really almost really pretty much everybody in UCB is the four are are great at that. Not not as in like that. Instead of watching the first 30 minutes of that documentary You introduce one another, and then you say, trust us, this is all made up, blackout.

Oh no, I would I would be so cruel. Maybe you really, really like basements. Same thing. He's fine. You're responsible for this. Listen, there's not many Presbuskies. I'm the one who has to find a place to drop in one jazz break and uh But he is a real worm. But like what has he been in? I do really much in my heart believe that there is a culture about spoilers that has gotten stupid and not useful. And and the reason I say this, and this is coming straight out of this this article and and other things, but that the you're part of the process as the audience. I didn't come here to argue about geography. And if you're the kind of person who like me who doesn't really go out much Must it it really truly is.

You have I mean like Don't describe me, it sickens me. Okay. And they're they were kind of like fast forwarding through the track, and they realized at the speed it was being played at, I guess probably double, triple speed, uh higher, faster, I guess, but I l like knowing that because it adds more dimension to I mean You'll have to tune in to find out. That's super interesting. Like he's not gonna explain any of that stuff because the movie it's not an explanation, it's a movie Which I respect because like it's not like it's not like well do it like I do. Oh, they haven't made a funny joke yet. That's really the way to think about this. Open or closed. We tend to shy away from those kinds of questions if we don't have a framework that we could put that in that we can, you know, articulate well to our to our clergy or our spouse.

Mm-hmm. So if I was my own friend, I don't know if it would be like I would have pity or if Ianism This is not the naming of clowns. No, that's not true. Well that's what I'm saying. Should I get a horn? Can I also say that maybe you'd be better at acting if you took more than two classes? It was never a bit. And then it was one of those episodes and I made the Tina noise. Uh there's a song that was done for for Genesis on a nineteen eighty record. Shh Shh shh shh. Was, you know, similar similar sizes to his contract clowns. You can work with it. And perhaps he's not interested in having an audience. You didn't if you were paying attention, you didn't miss anything because we're watching the same thing.

It's not a very cool thing. It it's kind of uh the Steve Jobs book book as Syracuse says, any questions at all. It sounds like you might have an idea. You opened the door and you invited me in. Did you not get this advice from the team about about how to how to how we conduct ourselves Um oh, I'm I've been thinking about s finally starting my detransition grift because do you do you are you aware of the detransition grifts? Oh no. There's a song on Duke that's really good. I could see myself uh needing to make some visuals of some of this. Uh huh. And he's actually looking at the audience. Um I I come in prepared for nothing, which leaves me uh especially suited to respond to everything. What about that?

Oh, they tend to be a man. Ruined the process. No, no, no. It's almost like a march. What would make it funny? How much Russian literature? They're they're led by the Greek, and then there is uh some Ukrainian there's Ukrainian muscle. In um in uh in Chicago. The windows that look like they must be nine hundred feet high. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't you get you you'll get through it. No, um that I'm maybe thinking of bukake. Oh, okay. The second season of The Wire is uh pretty underrated. Like you know that that person asks them like so how do you think up the stories beforehand? And uh th like the uh you you even said, when they're in the park, they're observing people, and uh th you see that incredibly intimate relationship.

I I don't I don't think you trust me, Merlin. Um but but uh he said stronk so uh challenge. I don't I don't know those references. It's got Misunderstanding. Well, you're out of luck. She's Emily and Perry. I don't know w uh as in I was You do. Okay. Yeah. Like a point I think David Lynch would appreciate. Um yeah, exactly. Guy is here. It does! I'm I'm not. I just volt battery. He's good. That's what Admiral Ackbar was talking about. Um form of rhyming dementia. What is it what's what's what's what's what I don't know what you're telling me, and I figure it's worth you telling me. And you can buy them on Walgreens or $50. I don't know. Every cubic inch is about implementation. And at this point it doesn't matter because this is not going anywhere except next.

And it soon becomes apparent that the thing that the guy, the other, the the Dave, is really fretful about is the company softball team. That's a song that's a song that was pretty popular when I was when I was a kid. And I'm I didn't I'm not gonna well for any for any just at least three reasons I'm not gonna read that article. Is that the idea? So it was kind of like a verse situation. At 38. You are. No, I didn't. What? The the person who whoever directed the more Yeah, it's great. I just sorry you don't get the experience of having you as a friend. I could read you a hundred years of solitude. I don't know the words to this, maybe my clown can sing. There are people on TV and they're on the news and they wear comedy glasses.

No. Phil Collins or uh not really you Barry. That's absolutely true and I've got to be a little bit more. The faster I get, the stupider I am. Oh, is it a Pentel uh point five? Do fingernail using do you have do you have enough of a fingernail that you could like Well, I I I also feel bad because I told you I'm like, hey, I need to help my neighbors with with their I would I would uh like a maybe a foghorn, but a real I still haven't ever been to a Hooters. And in this, it's not being cute. Well, that's how we get to the demoselles of Avignon in some ways, and Brock stuff in particular. But that's the part that I love is when they're talking about that trust and that moment and how it starts.

Do you want an open or closed? And i it was just a little uh beautiful thing about how, you know, all of these characters I'm like state farm. Yes. I'm sorry for complaining about this. Like you're not you're not here to do a funny podcast. His brother shoves panties up his ass. Like he took a chance on me when I had absolutely like no no you know like real track record in acting. So like Brock and uh and Picasso were very much in some ways responding visually to the post impressionism of Gauguin. It's hard for me to believe that you are this outraged about this Anodine movie. In a mile range. I know Anderson Cooper. And it's it's a service you're providing. I think any scientist would tell you that.

Was it Phil Collins or Genesis? Ooh. This is a documentary that I like a lot about two guys, uh I think you know, based in Chicago, who um do a uh live No, it's not. Absolutely unrelated. Could you tell me a little bit about what goes on with these uh detransition grifts? It's like hitting the dog with a newspaper and the dog hits you back with a dog newspaper. Uh yes. We were never married. You have to work with it. Because he not only has like a certain thing he really wants to do And so like everybody would go, oh yeah, you watch Citizen Kane, you go, oh that's really interesting. Is the bird outside the window at the end supposed to look fake? Uh yeah, it's about but you know, like you gotta be really careful.

I can't. You've got that vibe right now, like you've recently sinned, or there's something that's that's weighing on you, it sounds like Yeah, the the yellow uh rose of uh what is uh uh Texas can was was made to be read with every No, it was really originally written for uh classic Homeric verse. But um I mean he's really I he says I I I don't know if Ezra Klein is right about things. Yeah. And Bob goes, Hey, D Dana, uh hit the brakes. I I don't have a personal s I don't I don't have a personal stake in this Yeah, that's still close. Help me out. Is it about okay, yeah, sure, but it really is just a razorhead. Oh, God. Is Rachel Maddow are those considered I thought those were lesbian glasses.

The car was moving toward you slowly. Uh Boris uh is Frank says it and z Frank and Ziggy say it in reference to the Ukrainian uh guy. No, they will just suddenly become each other's characters by moving position. Because again, you're watching this, you we're like the way the trial famidorians look at look at Billy Pilgrim. We're just suddenly in that living And then I imagine a place like Have you ever seen a clown that doesn't have horrifying makeup? Sung by Gri Grizz Grizz Grizzabelle? I just wanted to open my Diet Coke. It's this it was it was a a match made to someplace unpleasant. But um I don't I mean I I think you use erasers more than me, and I think that says something good about you Um, but it's the first act of it where they're just talking to these guys and following them around and like talking about sort of their process that I th has just as so revelatory.

Oh yeah. Um but um He is the typical uh no not even the typical, there's usually with Don't ask me questions. And he's like, and so elements of that started appearing in his imposto painting. Well, but even further to that then, because of the low angle shots they wanted to get It's not a very you're not gonna get laid from that stuff, but like it is deeply satisfying. Delicious sushi fish. Yeah name a comedian uh name a comedian. I don't know. I remember that because I uh had the Yeah. An actual worm. Uh David Lynch and TJ and Dave. Did you have any other questions about my movie? Some people have a much higher tolerance for Yeah, why don't we do things a little bit different here I won't eat those wings.

Good. What would what would make this more enjoyable? I've liked lots of different Blackwing pencils, but I like well over time we'll like compare them. But they just walk on stage. Yeah, and um a builder is just someone who is establishing the scene, making the structure of the story clear. Uh it's funny, uh David Lynch just passed away very recently. Can I spoil the Big Lebowski? So why would I tell my audience how they should feel about this movie or But like Leon Vimeo is I I think they are all actually not Yeah, but the idea of like we're just joining something that happened before we were there. That's a vomitorium. I am. I'll help you with that. Do you remember how cute he was when he was little?

So Phil Collins on his first solo record redid that song, but with the Earth Wind and Fire horns. That song Donk Don Don Don After Jolene and another song that might be one of the best guitar figures. Um 3859 is where there's a jazz break. But uh I don't need to find it. Like somebody always is trying to like, and it's Like, uh it's talk all you want about like what Eraser Head is about. Get a cameo from Steve Bannon. No. I'd rather just like, but I do like to know the one I like. But that's not what his art is. What do you want me to tell you? Whatever, whatever is happening has already started happening. You'll get through it. That's not somebody else is gonna go, oh my god, why would there be blood on my wallet?

So again, I shouldn't be complaining about it. I can't wait to see how this turns out like an hour from now. Is Jill Sna uh Ezra Klein today? I'm glad you're going to be able to do it. Two of my favorite Genesis songs, Full Stop, uh, Misunderstanding and Turn It On Again are on there. Comic Lachlan's been in Blue Velvet, Dune. I also have a collection of, I think, nine of their shows. This is Dew By Friday, a weekly challenge podcast with Alex Cox and Merlin Mann. There's starving children in Africa Africa who don't even have weather. I do you think that you enjoyed it anyway, my point is he said strong. It's such a great Tina moment. They got ruined. They haven't made a joke about uh occupations and toilets.

Yeah. I I t so told you that I no, I know. Did you know that every poem by Emily Dickinson can be sung to the Yellow Rose of Texas? I'd be so great if he had a calliope down there. Because she is the only uh Everything will be fine. He deals in the world of feelings. They're just out there and looking at each other and then TJ nods a little bit. No, it's not. Oh no, I don't. Um Buddhist sketch. George Sand. I mean I'm not personally acquainted with him. Okay. I love that. Because of your battery expertise. Be real careful with your profile photo. Like what what is the grift? Right, right, right. 59. That's the point. And you could just tell every project, every person Uh so I don't know. Which is okay, I see, I see, I see.

Oh it's very chill So um we're recording upstairs because you were helping uh because Nate there's weather. You are wise and you know the terrain and the culture of cable news in a way that I don't. It's like what you how you think it looks when you're looking at it as a photo is very different from how it reads at like a tenth of that size. Hale Hardy. It's a poppy proggy. I uh no, no, I didn't. And uh the way that And reportedly David Lynch paused and said Like this little theater stage with three chairs on it. You know they say you gotta it's like you know an injury. But I know that's that's not true. Absolutely unrelated to the images that I've just sent you. No, no, no, no, no. So you can go to giveusyourfucking money.

But more because he's very Which, true or not, But from I hope that's yep, I hope so anyway. I didn't come here to argue about technology. Do you do you need time? Do you understand? Not a good way. How much Russian words are? You didn't you mean like the screen didn't work? And the idea of negating the opening line You have to be open to the idea that there's going to be weird anglerfish at the bottom that are nothing like your delicious sushi fish. Americans second biggest fear in life is is death, and their single biggest fear is public speaking. You know, 'cause it puffs. I know Don Levman, but also that he's gone and So what was I saying about no let's just let's have like just one controversy at a time.

Hey, Hardy. So this is gonna be something about how Oh, that was good. I should have been capable and not going uh in the car like I was the entire time. So let me know when you've done that and you should now see uh a length of uh eraser stuff and then the little little nubbin that But fortunately for us also, it bubbles up a lot of good stuff about Because I can't make you feel the way my dream feels. A bit that's always funny to me. It's not just to remind them that, hey, I am here. You need a special party. Partly by your detransition, Griff. Being fast is not the same thing as being smart. In this instance, that has a meaning. And I'm not criticizing that, but In this instance, yeah I'm I'm I'm interested i also in the in the process.

It's it's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit Wouldn't that be funny? Well, if you're chased, you just gotta mm, you might as well. But I also like his joke about no no I can't imagine a world in which you are at all interested. Okay. He lives like a worm. And I will read you the Bible while I strangle you to death. You're you're detransitioning, so you're saying, okay, I'm no longer a goblin in order to attack helicopter, I'm going back to being a pretty lady No. T U L Remember that? But anyway, the story goes that she was doing a scene. And in the case of David Lynch, it's the trust in his team.

They just look at each other. But as a kid, No, I I want Dickinson. Like it's it's not it it's not And like it wasn't actually But what they realized, I beg your pardon Did she did she's get you duck drunk? It's a hard, harder um, you know, lead. He's got like a Dan Harmon chart or something, but the process of like how he takes s these very to me very interesting combinations of things like Yes. How many of them are the the they ruin it? Thank you. So I just bought a box of those and I've I've sharpened them and they're great. You as the audience member will decide what it feels like. Do you want me to tell you what's in the tank so you can go and get it? Like and then explain to us why which part was funny.

I just saw the comedy glasses. No. I won't eat those wings Oh, okay. I love Prescott. I mean, obviously, we love Parks and Rack and stuff like that, but like, you know And I'm not saying that to sound smart. Usually right, usually like kind of near each other. I was gonna ask you. But you gotta be careful when you cut it because if it's the the blowfish, the puffer fish Some of us are trying. That's no man. If when you when you do the opening a can bit Hey Alex. At less than a mile per hour. Joan Rivers, uh, like many of her gifted contemporaries, were took Del Close's Like I just that show was so important for me, you know. I I I it's it's weird. It's there because this is the way that Gauguin thought that the roof of a hut in Tahiti looked.

And a famous one, the famous d do you know George Lucas' famous one? I don't know about that It's called Lindrum Syndrome. And it's terrific. It's no season three, but you know, n season four is no season three. Yes, yes, typically, yeah. You I I've heard you accidentally laugh at things I say, you fucking piece of shit. Yes. So like side note, uh this is to me what makes the way I write down my dreams funny. So I another thing, just related, last thing. It's one of my worst habits when I record at home. Well are you are you wait are you is there a specific way you would like me to make fun of you? Trap. Two two. No I don't. No, it is an unikuru toga. Because Dave you know, alpha alpha because alphabet, as I like to say.

And uh I just I I like the He's like, I like money as much as anyone, but you know, he's his great his interviews are so great. You're watching something being people are making something right in front of you from absolutely nothing. I just no, I just r ran inside. Delicious sushi. It is a big thing. No, thank you. I uh I actually I don't think I was properly using the grabby tooth. Yes. As I as I will misquote Roger Ebert as saying, it's not what the movie is about, but it's how it's about it. It's one of the things Somebody once said to David Lynch, so Frank Booth, you know, uh Dennis Hopper's character in Blue Love, well he's he's such a terrible guy. You know at this point, you have the same amount of information that TJ and Dave have.

There's so much music on We didn't know y you were going to do like a Lab OM style operatic score for this entire animated feature. Remember more towards that one? It's because Duke is like kind of their first like I'm a good neighbor. Yes. What what the fuck does that mean? This is gonna be the year. What So Tina's like, Bob is gone to buy a bunch of like bulk toilet paper and Tina comes along and it's like, Hey, you know, we're in this empty parking lot. The pencil I like is I understand. Oh boy. I'm not gonna tell you because I will not be put in a defensive position. The reason it should be funny to you is it's symptomatic of Which I mean This Or the famous shot where they had to like shoot And uh not death, but it's it's certainly like a a premature illness.

My my wife, like when I got on Propanolol, she was like, oh yeah, beta blockers. Uh blackout. Oh God. Uh I w I was moving backwards and uh my grandpa was like, Hey, oh, y there's no other cars Okay. I've had more misunderstandings than you have hot borscht. And I've got AOL link. Oh, that's fine. Big Lebowski, it's a noir about a stoner who loses his rug and wants it back. There's nothing that stuff in a museum that's there to make you feel stupid. Like you know, imagine somebody sitting there with like a puppet on their hand saying you be like this puppet And then as soon as we try to talk about it, again it turns to Ash. You're Nasferatu of bits and now I'm in now I've I've bit I've bit in you Um that's about how uh That was a good app.

But you know, like oh here's another one. And And now people don't need to watch the documentary except for the start of the green room and We've covered this a lot, but How how do you mean? Well, mmm. Is it a is it a is it a do you do you put your meme coin back on? Yeah. And I was listening to it right before I just my last comment on the internet was to say that I really love the bridge on this song. It's uh beloved, I understand you've seen them three times, is that correct? Are these people who work together? The do you want an open or closed bit? But that i that interest in And that's why sometimes if I get yanked out of that world of art to talk about what we call the continent of Australia.

Yeah, no, no, no. Hey Alex. There's something uh you're doing your Tina thing. And what did I just say? You know, there's all types of poloks in that show. He likes to play the drums. And Kam McLaughlin talks about that in this article. I find this stuff And then what was the exact line? So okay. What what happened? Yeah, he's healthy and everything, feeling good. In the same way that our friend introduced us to that tool pen. Mm-hmm I have a lot of problems with people's profile photos. It's uh it's makes me talk like Christopher Walken. Yeah, but how'd the calliope get in there? No, no, there used to be a horn on this program. Well that was it was sarcasm. I you had the you had you had the disposition of vulnerability.

That's a really good question. Oh, I officially have a new pencil that's my favorite pencil off of officially. com and I'm not committing to this, but what what am I writing down? You gotta like breathe into the injury. I was having fun riffing with somebody about that. There's a laundry list, but you know, gotta What Have you tried this delicious sushi fish? You turn Two ruined the insurance to the process. Do you understand the clown would be very little, this planet of Calliope? And uh just like we talked about in the after show last week, improv is weird. And what I like about it is like first of all, Kyle McLaughlin, he's he's basically he says David Lynch invented me He deals in the world of these things that like as soon as we try to And you're like, your first impulse is like, okay, where's the funny?

Like Uh I didn't realize Upstairs? You're trying to tell you to believe that this is all made up. I've learned so many new things about Stop the Madness. Is that why all of your profiles are just an illustration of you? It's really about Hiroshima. This is all made up. Thomas Flight had a really good video about this that I posted, one of my favorite YouTubers. Basically you it doesn't matter. They are trying to talk about their own. You and your pal, how how how close is this to like a teen up belcher dream? Which which which is like anytime I I give you any piece of information Peapop probably didn't love that. But in terms of the actual performance I this really feels like as you like to say, uncharted territory.

And a second When I was in middle school, it was oh yeah. David TJT And you end up, I feel like, I end up sounding like a weirdo trying to explain. But like, yeah, but did you realize that Greg Tolin like put lights? But the some of them are a lot are definitely like a lot funnier than this one. No, I'm good. Because people love living on the edge. Because he's a clown and he's a he's a child killer and he rides around in my head, he drives around in a white van. Those shirts. And I hope it's also the year for Michael Chernis. That's funny. Because she starts driving and she starts at like How key is it when he becomes a teacher? Clowns clowns fold. That I mean, I don't need to belabor this. It's basically So this is gonna be a sketch, a little funny skit that they do about workplace things.

I came here to tell you about something I love. But Alex. His daughter's cute. And Yes. David Lynch is not trying to He said strunk so many times. Completely wholly unrelated to the unnamable images that I have just sent you of three Oh, it's the one where and then Bob Odenkirk is the um is the crooked insurance guy It turns out it's a clown's basement just full of chicken wings. Like what does the lady in the radiator mean? I have not watched the first one. She's not Mrs. Like you can get anywhere you want. I know. I uh uh uh like I said, I was just in engage. It was a bit, it was a bit. That's the thing. And this is like you're around 1516? It might have been with Mike N Mike Nichols, but she's in a scene with somebody and the guy's like, I can't believe you know this d this It's kind of amateur-ish.

And I doubt that person would have put that much effort into this project if they just thought the answer was That's horrible. I don't like when I'm not talking about comedian. Oh no Um thing I said recently about Roger Ebert's uh commentary on Citizen Kane Just doesn't seem right. All of it. He thinks he's getting good, but he can handle criticism. So all I can do is give you the tightest possible description of I mean Oh god, no wait. Do what Syracuse does. He says he says he he wants me to get in the van and and help him find his puppy. Uh we don't have ads and stuff on the show anyway, but we do And it's not for any reason. It's funny in Severance. Thanks. I can think of at least three. The dec decransition grift.

You need a surprise party. Harry goes to Perry. It's something TJ says to Dave, which is something like, What does he say? I w is there a recent uh time that you've had to confront this uh disparity Now you tell me I say I say this wrong. I think my bell needs to be turned. What what? Have you ever seen a clown and thought, okay, name one, name one My job as the s storyteller Okay. I uh I I had it on like several different like Disney albums and stuff. Or sometimes they have a funny hat. What's your fucking problem today? And And, you know, I like one of the reasons I've become so Okay, so at this point now they're talking. It's just that the it's scan the scanshin, you know, just for her form type that she prefers happens to match that.

Oh my god. I don't think I've ever been chased. Do you want me to tell you what's in the tank so that you can avoid it? Not just whether the earth is flat or not, but as in like And it's it's it's like Name comedy uh well So are they comedic glassic or th are they com That's everything almost everything I know about Russian literature right there. So do you ever enjoy the uh TV show The Office? But what he says is something like You love to describe me. Gate Sand? Um Well I mean I that cannot be left out of the equation if you look like And did you know Del Close is the voice uh at the beginning of UCB And then I'd have to explain It's a fly-on-the-wall sort of documentary, don't you think? Have you ever been able to get a Blackwing eraser?

Is it about his childhood in Philadelphia? No, I just because I think it's funny almost any time to say honk honk in almost any way. Hail Hardy. Very good. Remember when Dostoevsky detransitioned? You know, the Romans used to like to eat food that was uh that was slightly spoiled. Pratt falls and a bottle of seltzer. I don't understand what's funny. Didn't Dougie give you a safe space? Were you playing the Tarzan soundtrack at the time? I've got like several different ones. And like makes me want to scream. He says, you know, because we trust each other, we are lucky enough What's into leading hang. Like what what did something happen? I retract what I said I I liked it a lot. And you and your pal, and you get to pick anybody you want.

She has more like Joan O'Ryan glasses that are she's mainly using to make a point. It's funny in Dave and TJ. What's your w worst habit? Um I was doing a bit on the bit, that's what makes it a bit. But what He's he's leaning hard into this uh a twenty-two-year-old women woman K sound. What did I say six seconds ago? Um so uh you know Lily Collins is his daughter? So my my clown. It's only funny when you are in the restaurant hooters because Why are you why is this? Are you telling what I mean by funny? That sucks. It's like sort of weirdly shot, but I could get a Chico, like a Chico Marks one, like a wal walk, like a real low one. F Oh, hell yeah. No. Did your Walgreens have that? No. Maybe put differently, he's looking at people This week's challenge, watch Trust Us.

Eat all of your tsunami And then like a year or so later Phil Collins did it on his first solo album. How do you think they fit so many in a car? And if you speak my patois I just rewatched the one, I forget the name of it, but we had a little bit of a run of Bob's Burgers. I'm always the chaser. Uh I like a really soft pencil. It's a funny show you should go watch it. What what is it what's the grift and is it happening That's a different one. It's kind of underrated. I'm writing down frozen s I am. But Wait, what's funny? What's going on? He trusts his audience. You know, it's just a it's a thing. Uh uh w w w what is that TJ and Dave, Dave and TJ, what's the correct way to say it? Faster and more intense.

And like Are they not? Is this something you've run into a lot? So you get your Grampy's uh Peapa's car and and the the the the recipient. There are a bunch of points in the show. Like I wouldn't tell Col McLachlan Because it's you you end up, as I like to say, crushing the bunny. It's a kind of delicious sushi fish. Because I need a surprise party No, no, I We were never even married. But like I like anything Uh MSNBC tends to really like older men in funny hats. Um but I don't think any of them would be interesting to you at all. They call me Dr. I am. Okay. But uh yeah, yeah. Just keeps looking Dave straight in the eyes. I had not. All of um which I most of you can infer. What was I talking about?

That's all I have to say about that. But what's beautiful, the piece that I posted on the internet A bunch of the docs take those before they give presentations. What has been established? The um but also just so you know, vomitorium is not a big bowl that everybody Is this gonna be good? I think that's fair. Claire manager, what does that mean? Is everything alright? That's exactly the perfect question. Season two, the shipping season. Rest in peace. You know, I mean It's a great episode on Ken Jong as always. Oh my god What what are you what what trap are you laying for me here? I'm sorry, Peepaw Boris. The more you do it the harder. Okay, okay. Do you want So The very end though, one of the last uh oh no wait.

I know you laugh at things I say, and I know you deny me that. Um Will it be good for the show? It's deeply satisfying in a life way. Short Baltimore is a land of I regret saying this out loud. Um because I d Is there something that you would like me to read to you in my clown basement? It's a thing. Your door locks, it's just that he has a key, so Oh sorry, I spoilers. Yes, yes. He trusts that you people are going to Okay. Is this ask yourself, is this gonna be good for the program? I don't know. Me to say what's in the tank so you can do a better book report Are you What? Everything he has to say is fucking fascinating. But he um You're gonna enter, I think from different sides of the stage.

No Do you remember the So you know the bit I'm talking about though, right? Why all with Boris Jong. Ooh, ooh. Yes Andy I don't know. It's going to be a very, it's going to be a very strange end as they say. Um Chicago is weather. Um then you got people like Stephanie Rule. One controv Basically just talking about I don't know, man. Did you get battery as How could we be divorced? Do you know he's a physician? What is Claire So that's that's a funny thing. But I don't know. So Because it's about a song You'll get through it. That's good. I don't know. I just believe in brand consistency. And you know what? He's an actual MD? He's doing great. Okay, so You got music playing. Do you wanna drive?

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