381. The Voice of Fred

Are you good at arithmetic? And the dimensionality of weirdness in this because uh there's like I up to six things about this that were really, really memorable. Swimblows. But didn't you just you basically just shot all over yourself and rubbed it in and said, Hey everybody looked at me look at me, I don't know words. I think one reason he likes those songs is because they're, you know, I've always heard my ex used to say that um people in general, women in particular, tend to keep the hairstyle that they had when they were happiest in life. It's like there's some kind of a not a governor or a uh a uh I don't know what the word I'm looking for. It cuts over to anger and anger takes over and then that gets to run the day.

But I have put the infrastructure in p in place where it'll it'll happen uh whether I want it to or not. And the more into the music you are, the more you're kind of bending backwards until you almost look like half a question mark. Yes. That's close to a lot of really weird shit that institutions do to people. My spouse's n name is Maddie. And he says, why don't I start out with five minutes? So came in here, I wasn't expecting a kind of Spanish Inquisition, and that's when they burst through the door, and they start the Spanish, and nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. These are this is playing on just so many wonderful ideas about how we think and how we communicate and what words mean.

And like we do little bits about that and I pretend that I don't know that words have different meanings and like but like one of my great secret joys in life is And I'm like very intently like it's the time of day, like let's say it's hang time and we're having dinner and we watch TV. I'm queer and I'm used to it. Yeah, new math is really confusing. My kid didn't have any of that. So what's weird is my kid my kid couldn't call up nine times seven, maybe exactly as fast as I could, but was able to do much more interesting things with ruling out Mm-hmm. Anyway, fuck it. By my count three different versions of Ave Maria? Like kind of above your love handles. If you've ever watched a rally when there's a medical problem, you'll he always happen two days or whatever.

What is it that made you think I was insulting you because you didn't know a phrase that is a phrase? We're so deep. You know. I'll just I don't believe that. But I was like all right. And they say, No, you're thinking of seven samurai. Oxbridge he says he says there's trouble down at the mill. Then it turns out it's a class that never ends and you never really leave. I'm trying to figure this out. Where I'm like, God, I it would be so fun if you would love this thing as much as I do. Yeah. And it's one of those things where it's all grayed out unless you actually like interact with it. I mean it's not keeping me up at night, but like okay, here's my impression of our show. Yeah, doing stuff.

You know, and I I try to go in like as inertly as possible. I'm gonna be cross with you. Uh and like how I am. Oh my It's me. Uh what do you got? Even people just slightly younger than me learned arithmetic or older than me. And it was a bit and like people were making jokes about it and stuff and because it was I I I it's different from what we now consider a new way of doing at least arithmetic. with homework because the assignment is something I don't understand. Uh Mrs. computers. do what I did. f well asterisk asterisk it was surprisingly diverse given the time but there there were black kids there and there were a lot of Jewish kids there and then there were regular white people like my mom Yeah, okay, that gas is too low, this gas is too high.

I think arithmetic, first of all, is a great word and it has a meaning, and we're not talking about trigonometry. Multiply divide. Anyways, it's uh uh that's the way we learned it, and uh for better or for worse, but it's in I'll tell you what's interesting, and I probably said this at the time And I just I think this is interesting because this is one of those you know, life can be a little bit complicated type things. I'm on my heels in awe. I will kill his asses. you know, pedagogical developments, but also policy decisions over the years, right? just crazy. in the like reading and writing arithmetic song. Uh maybe that relates to it. You know, we talked about this last week and how we had that one good rally, but before that he had two weird rallies.

saying so many other kinds of things. It wasn't when you'd found yourself washing or whatever. And then I decided, all right, well the event's gotta be up now. And kept it running in the lower right hand corner with just a count of like, okay, we're getting up thirty-eight minutes. YouTube, I couldn't stop. Just uh you could see the gears turning in her head, like, how do I save it? Okay, so like but like well this and the point I'm trying and failing to make because we keep grinding on this is like it's not I wanted to set that aside, but as long as we're talking about it, I'm not a big fan of hers. sorry, South Dakota, and Trump was gonna come and answer questions. Okay, so it's good what's going to say about Christineum is you can tell she's just trying to figure out how to get through the next thirty seconds.

And she's it's not even like you can tell but she's such a gamer. But a little bit of a Billy Crystal's Billy Crystal's character in when Harry Metselli calls the white man's overbite. like it's like the difference between knowing hearing about an Andy Warhol movie and watching an Andy Warhol movie or a Kenneth Anger movie. Also, I think pretty clear that the audience doesn't know if they should actually do the YMCA or if they should just dance because they're like, well that's the gay song. But w what I mean is this little dance shuffle was very different from a typical rally. To say to somebody, oh yeah, Andy Warhol did this movie where it's just several hours of a camera pointed at the Empire State Building, and you go, Wow, that's pretty weird.

I am not, I this is not body shaming people because um not unfortunately, but just uh And he just he just looks like it's just a big fat man kind of like reeling left to right on stage and it's it goes on for so long and the songs are so fucking weird. As Nate Silver says, he keeps he keeps saying over and over, take your time. Yeah, but he but it also it always comes back to that face. You know, he really loves coming out and you understand that do you notice, Alex, that every time he enters a room at Mar-a-Lago, people everyone stands up and applauds? you know, visiting from Conyers, Georgia for the day. Um sexy Angel Ross. and he was up there but like it's not even it's yeah he does the weird things and he's trying to be amusing and he doesn't really seem Just wanna go in.

Uh it's all so confused. And he you could say he sways, but he also it's more like it's more of um how do you describe it? Or do you just not ponder that question at all? d a different type of day, a different time of day, it's all over the place. I never I've never put tried to put this into words, but you ask a good question and I'm gonna try. Not a monologue exactly, but how can I put this? Where he's always, I mean, and but all of that's still overseen by Fred Trump's voice in his head that like he's never gonna be good enough. he memory holes any anything that he's done very, very quickly, but you also can't escape it. like on some days in the past, like I'd be kind of a a bummer to be around and I wouldn't actually get a lot done.

He doesn't have an there's no there's not aren't many externalities in his life that that cause him to r reassess how he looks at the world. I don't know. But he um well it uh I think he likes I think he likes being up there and he it's it's like his triple dip cream dream 'cause he gets to stand there while a bunch of You know, anyway, I don't it's a little late in the game to get too far into his psychology, but um you know I'm not gonna get over this until I send it to you. Uh hey, hey, real talk, do you think it's a do you think it is actually uh a bandwidth latency problem? uh person. If you know what I mean. it's become my habit to swear by the old gods and the new that I'll do whatever they want me to say to not get killed.

Oh. There's some song in the background going bop beep bop and bop bop bop beep or whatever. I I did not watch my friends die face down on Tuesday New Wave nights to have to confront you about what things were actually called in the 1980s. You hear me and you think, my goodness, Marilyn seems like he's usually like a pretty nice guy. You've memory hold a certain phrase and therefore it never existed. to what strangers had decided was acceptable vocabulary today. s a a strength of conviction to things that he believes that I respect. Specifically in Chicago, our Elmodress. For example, it would be might be stranger if you went in and said, for example, the Magnificent Seven. And you said, I'm not here to see a Kurosawa movie, I'm here to see Seventh Samurai.

Okay, it's pretty good. And and it opens, all you need to know, it opens with John Cleese looking up from his desk, kind of frustrated, saying, I've already told you once. He goes, yes, I most certainly did. And but one of the things he said a long at least I remember hearing him say a long time ago was I can't get anywhere near what he said, but then you know, a lot of the humor of that team, the the shows that they've done, the things that they do are basically just about how fraught human communication is, how difficult it is to communicate with other people. and said, um, trouble down the mill, excuse God off the treadle. and who doesn't want to be doesn't want anything to do with being the savior.

And I just wanted to say that I think it was good enough for Jehovah. Anyway, it's really funny because now you're getting into the actual meaning of the term like sort of like performative statement, which is like I've declared like you will die now. But you have to do it like everybody, the women. Sketches. Okay, but like if it's a young person, is there a chance that Clone Wars, the animated, wonderful animated show might actually be better? You know what I mean? Um, I had done a lateral friend change title. Was there a reason for the change? What kind of guitar? You know, John Lennon played or the birds played. like impr we imprint it on as very young people and our language hasn't evolved and that's complicated and I I think that's super interesting.

but then also look at just the practical component of like how we struggle. Stay with me, stay with me. Ectos ties. tr jog traders throughout history who have, you know, not controversial methods that a at all, but they're quite successful. Yeah, they are very smart. Cats had a very uh specific reputation for being surly and uh just kind of off-putting to some people. uh a very specific reputation of being uh kind of aloof and uh it just the You don't think that's part of the internet appeal And you're like, no, no, no, it's it's a very unusual course. Cats happened to us because uh we found these little creatures that were useful at killing vermin and it was like, oh, all right, we'll keep you around.

uh we see how they act without h humans around and the way they communicate with each other is really fucking freaky like the l all of the little chirps are cute in video What do you got in your mouth? S successfully, this episode was not about LLMs, uh, which is the main thing I try to get Maddie excited about all the time. To him? Mm-hmm does not want to be told about I think you should leave, which is why I I don't uh know it as well as you because that's something that he does not want to hear. in the background. like SAT problem or like one of those puzzles, you know, you're riding on a train, there's a man with a yellow hat, somebody else is stabbing somebody, uh, this guy can't fit in the room.

It's just that, you know, it's the it's the repeated part that I think I I could get better. But like we're, you know, we're where are we now? up on the thing and you've got and like Sansa is still being passed around to all these different terrible men. because it gets annoying. They're not doing dress up. And with Madeline, like she's been fucking working all day. Mm Matt and I we have uh airplane mode sometimes where w we just are like, okay, don't bother each other unless we're gonna be able to do that. Yeah, I don't think it's mine, but uh that's what I've just heard you say it and I I love that phrase. Because sometimes you're like, could everybody please shut up while I watch Succession?

Depending you know, there's usually like some kind of like ritual for the end of the day, like Syracuse is showing the photos from the day or whatever. Mm-hmm. And that's our way of g I I suppose getting someone excited about something and uh w with like the the LLM thing like it is a bit and it's kind of Yeah, you just end up opening it in uh different tabs? I mean, there's all kinds of code to pick up from people. Like for example, I know that my entire life my grandparents would take a nap every afternoon. I no no okay it's different. gets the full file. D I really wanna know if it's connected to the side. Like it's easy for you in some weird way. It's this giant, giant, giant thing that you cannot make any smaller.

This week's challenge, get somebody excited about something. I okay, aha ha I guess I'm not fast today. No matter what I say, you seem a little freaked out. Oh my god, I started doing a thing where I just hold the left side of my face open so I can breathe. And just it does. I don't know, adults used to do where people talk to each other about arrangements and then you don't have to talk about it anymore. 15th, let's see. Well, two things made very little sense to me, right? October 29th. I I'm not a historian of this at all, but like when I was a kid, not too long after my father had died, I suppose. But my brother who was two years younger, it was g gone, and then uh n none of my other siblings know how to do multiplication except the one who does com Oh, that's very wholesome.

So that was still a thing in the mid-90s. And it was, you know, basically the grid. I feel like I remember this so clearly was like the sevens were really hard for me and the eights were kind of hard for me. It's pretty wild. Why? Because I've just I genuinely find each sort of iteration interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because in some fantastical vision of myself, I have the idea that maybe I could bring people an idea that's not the one that's everywhere right now. It's worth checking in. You may not be as caught up as you think you are on how weird this man can get. Okay. I Well, that's why I no click on things you send me. Yes, he sways. Yeah, but this was a little linked like his little uh double hand job dance for YCA.

A three quarter shot of him from the side. I mean, I g I real I realize that sounds obvious, but explaining a painting versus looking at a painting is very different. Trump and I have had like similar body types. Uh how bragging. How would you like to wake up from almost dying and hearing Ave Maria? where apparently he'll just start playing the the songs he plays that get played at his rallies, right? Nothing lasts forever, even cold November rain. Well that's uh Yeah. Oh God. Something very special uh from everything I have heard all against my will. Yeah, but I don't look at it when people hand me things. I can't that's very exciting. I'm having this constant um not co I I don't make it sound like I'm afflicted, but I do have an ongoing sort of um unconscious sort of inner Where he realizes he's misspoken and tries to cover it up by by adding by saying both words separated by the word and.

Does that I don't know if that makes sense, but like I I I I know like I I th that is a a similar battle to like all kinds of like my basic my most basic energy You know, we get a little view into like, oh, he's still got I think this is actually not my favorite. Oh God, I want to put this delicately. uh almost like compression in audio. Uh oh yeah, big, big, big. Thank you. W what is like your awake awake time? that be over like in a way that requires like actual attention or just like the first time I see what somebody else said? You know? Meat Locker. Yeah, that's a place where baths would happen too. Robert Smith hair or whatever, or maybe like more an asymmetric, you know, cut. No, I'm questioning because I know of folks who self-identify as you ever heard that term before?

Because I know it's it's it's not a nice thing to say. Okay. Matt has Matt has a mind of his own. part? Uh but there was no megalopolis. And he goes, an argument is not, and I'm just doing this from the memory, but an argument is not just the automatic gainsaying of whatever the other person said. There's a one of many wonderful scenes in Life of Brian, which is basically it's about the st story of the life of Jesus, but it's told by a guy who's kind of mistaken for Jesus, a guy named Brian. Um they go see the Sermon on the Mount and then they're like, okay, we gotta go let's go to the stoning. people who are like blasphemers or enemies of the state, right? It's, you know, um This would be a good starter playlist of g good Monty Python uh started with Holy Grail and then gone into the T.

is for for many more reasons than I could ever begin to get into because I haven't I have to like prepare, but like it's a really big the the the reason I find Money Python funny ends up also being a reason that I think life is so interesting. Like there's just something intoxicating to me about words, there always has been. a dog trainer so uh obviously it's like mm your dog doesn't understand the word no you've gotta you need to connect to these exercise discipline and then affection And I know that he's not problematic at all. And then a fiction. Matt's a dog trainer and speaks and and also uh speaks languages. I I've said on this show that I didn't think people were into cats until the internet.

They just kinda happened because we did no we didn't. exist for, at least as far from a certain standpoint, it is pretty wild. You know, cats obviously uh could be like a it could be like a dead bird or a DVD. 'Cause I keep thinking she'll like it, but it's really not her kind of thing. You know, like oh but pay a lot of attention. Like a whole bunch of people probably Tolkien in a similar way like you but like nobody wants to be told about Tolkien again. Like, you know, Alexa, I got a realization about this I kind of want to share. This is the time where I might want to watch something funny, but I really want to watch something absorbing around six o'clock or seven o'clock. Which this is this is the probably the only thing that bums me out about this ha ha funny idea that I I only ever start things and I don't watch things and I don't pay attention.

Around the time that I do kind of wanna like not only get way into watching something like Game of Thrones, which is one of my disappear into shows, but I can tell the kid likes it a little bit and Madeline loves it. And like I'm so into watching that. Like, you know, that's Roger Allen. They're they're playing by themselves together. It sounds a little clinical, but it's a it's a pretty good term. I mean they might be medievalists on the side, but the primary medical doctors. I'm fortunate to have this period of time where we're all together in a room doing parallel play, and I want to be a good supporter of the parallel play, and I don't need to be the conductor of it. where uh the doctor has to hide uh by having his memory erased and working at the school and Martha works there too.

catching up with friends from the day and probably posting pictures of things and like doing the kinds of things like when you're on vacation and you're out for the day, you come home at night and then you like And I think that's gonna make me better at it. It'll be, hey, this is this is a pay attention show. for well actually a good example now is I am re watching Halt and Catch Fire, but like really watching it and Matt is has already seen it, so he is just And accept and sort of announce a thing that you're saying, which is however we watched this together before, this time's gonna be different. Yes, I can't yes my my people are good at at at that because no one taught us how to and so we had to figure things out.

Uh like he doesn't he doesn't care about how I uh finally got a Python uh script to play Snake in a browser or any any of that. Uh oh, I see what you're doing. Uh sometimes you just can say things like, I mean, I I I didn't catch this as a kid, but there's a lot of this in in a person's family that you don't pick up until you're older. You can only make the river sign in the app. But also, right now, still from the time we started recording, an hour ago or whatever, it says keep the app open while we upload. This is not a comment about your product. Sorry. Am I going to regret asking who Stuart Copeland is? I don't uh the way I did that it ended up kind of country with the way I was doing it on the twos and fours.

many recent episodes, or as you say, many recent episodes. Hello or hi Alex or hello or whatever. I just show up most of the time and try a little bit and I really hope that works. I you've got the regulars over here, the traps over here, and then uh So what happened was it was third grade, and everybody knows what happens in third grade. But I said this to my lady for weeks now. the uh radar screen immediately like poor Christy Gnome really Which is not uh something that I thought I'd say but yeah personally for lots of reasons, but but you could see, in my opinion, watching this, so and if if y'all don't know what this is, I'm sorry. I mean, uh like I say, back to the demoiselles of Vavignon.

I would go further because dancing is kind of a part of Trump rallies now. You can see that's where it all is. And of course, whenever some and I'm I I'm I now unintention now now intentionally, but previously unintentionally stealing these jokes from other people. Overly bothered by what's happening and how disruptive it is. 'Cause he just loves to talk about how he was there on opening night and uh does sometimes play it at a random. Ooh. No, no, I am uh 2000 Mastitutes. I'm mmm, is this like a Vic Burger situation? Uh I do uh I can talk Don't say latency, it's not latency. thoughts that he doesn't realize are heavily based on emotions. And I will try and address that in ways that I can address that, but sometimes that's complicated.

Anyway, I I just I wonder sometimes if he, you know, because part of what helps us get or allows us to get through the day in a lot of ways is to kind of develop this practice of constantly rejecting a thought we don't want to have. on the periphery at a disco in nineteen seventy eight, watching people who actually can dance dance to YMCA. Oh like that's why you see old people with beehives is because that's a time when they were happy and felt pretty. So weird. That's why I wonder if uh he is aware of all of the things that you just mentioned currently, but uh then you stated something that I think is obvious that I don't get into I I I don't know. It might be me. Um I Wh where what where where would you like to take that in this uh visit we have?

Hmm. Uh today, may maybe you're a bath enthusiasti I learned so much about myself from you. Those those other gods that you commune with. No, no. Right at first, because I don't want you to fall over while you're trying to do this. Half a heart and half a brain, smack them together and realize how funny it was to to use that word in nineteen eighty-five. We call them homo honeys now. It's it's got quite a rhythm to it as well. Those things that are were part of your life. It it hurt point. I uh was trying to get uh m M Matt specifically because I I don't have a ton of Mahelo. communicate, right? that we're gonna look back and be embarrassed. To me. Okay, th the at Alamo Draft House this week there wasn't there the the apple was broken.

That did not actually prevent me from uh uh going, but uh it is October. As I mentioned, but every time I say megalopolis, I qu question whether or not I'm I'm saying it correctly. And and and you say, D did you not know that I cannot pronounce Megalopolis? l first fell in love with Monty Python is like the the meta the kind of meta language stuff. And so he goes to an office because he's heard that you can go in there and pay money and have an argument with somebody. And that's the bit. That's some junklies or I think it was junk. So he's like, wait, wait, are you arguing with me on the clock now or off the clock? Or think of something like uh uh Spanish Inquisition, which is funny in execution, but even funnier in premise to me, which is that a coal miner like runs in And so so there's this guy, they're about to stone him.

Right. who likes really good movies and is kind of turned off by Hollywood Spectacle, that person might like um Andor to start out Mm my first girlfriend and I broke up and then uh I got a crush on this other girl and she liked me and we made out we liked making out a lot and then I kind of moved in with her friend group. Um, he uh was still with his husband in many years in Highland Park. to to s to say the things that we mean or to like understand what other people want. Which is like how often do John Sarkuson and I argue or fake argue about like what a word means or different meanings of words Verse. Uh machines, uh obviously, yeah, no, uh uh yeah, okay, we get it. will often go for animals, especially our pets, and uh m Maddie gets very frustrated with this because he is a And it's you're stipulating that that that just to for clear for our own.

It's gonna be kind of a lot. And uh I see that being um it could that you could present it as what looks like it's gonna be a a module of say seven to fourteen weeks, but Just dealing with rats in the barn and it's the craziest thing you've ever seen. Unfortunately or unfortunately for him, I know. non-hearing for me to um you know keep pursuing that when I know it's not our thing. Uh-huh. uh some things to build on there. I do that often with Tina likes to be cool. of some kind of palliative care for my ADHD, which again, now this will show you how much you know whether how much you know about Lisa Merlin's ADHD. It's a term when you have a baby and you get your little baby, so you get three or four little babies together.

You know, whatever. Did you recognize that Daenerys' brother was also in that really good uh episode of Doctor Who We we declare it because You say like hey can we just do it can we do airplane mode for an hour? Because screen time doesn't mean anything. Yeah, I I mean I don't I think it's important, but uh more importantly to communicate with each other. hanging out and uh doing phone time. I don't understand why people use this app. I like I don't I don't know anyone who works here, but I don't know if it's connected. than Zoom. And um and of course I uh if you like experienced that because I'd be visiting them. Oh, a bit frazzled, but frazzled, Alex. Congruent wrong? Oh I'm it's it's your show.

Um just because, you know, whatever. Five? a piece of, I want to say green paper usually with 100, you know, products or, you know, uh problems on it. You're weird you're a weird kid with a bowl cut. in your mind of let's just say let's start with you have an idea in your mind of like how weird Trump is, which is his which is very weird. I uh how'd you how did you first of all how'd you discover it and then how have you consumed it? I apparently this is uh all the people, the Maggie, the Molly Habermans, etc. And you're like, wow, I'm I'm gonna do a survey. I don't I don't like office hours and I feel bad. Oh right. energy and executive function battle, which is like I like I have chemical fucking problems that make it difficult for me to do in certain ways.

I'm interested in the first time you interact with another person outside your immediate family. Is this the show you want to make, Merlin? I I I'm not saying it's a good thing, but do you realize how weirdly dishonest it would be? Matt has like a lot of people that I love really super like and respect, um, uh will surprise you sometimes with his opinion about something not not, you know, completely like out there like eating babies is cool or whatever, but just more like, you know, mm Matt has um Yes, thank you. to like surprise your cat. But also then how like you're saying specifically about how there's a tendency to like want to interact with a computer as though as though kind of you're you you talk to it like it's a person a little bit, even though you know it's not that?

Trainer with C S R. Sc with screens or books or or whatever. Let him loose with uh but uh so spoiler actually he has been into chat GPT a ton because he does uh little games and like branching trees. Uh, for the after show, can we do Zoom? But it I can't dismiss it. But that didn't work, so I clicked on that on the down thumb, because up to two. Sure. Hello, how are you? Say again. mention how their kids were using new math and went to look at it and I'm like, what the fuck is this? Oh God. Trump stuff, politics stuff, like whatever stuff. It's worth catching up. But the part that's so ineff see if well, see if you agree with this, but like I think the part that's so ineffable to describe it as something where Trump asks his people to play a bunch of random weird music, including I'm smart, not like everybody says.

I'm really excited to go through this. And sometimes I work on that. uh in one way or another and then developing these infrastructures that like support that. band from Chicago that was popular in the 80s. Hmm It is eleven forty before you there, yes, yes. Whatever. Actors, men dressed as women with obviously fake beards, who've brought stones to throw at at people, and it's really, really funny. I uh come at it from a different angle with the obsession uh that of of kind of g I got people excited about this with uh d how we communicate with i animals. The but d the internet appeal is the just kind of unhinged nature of cats because we didn't really domesticate them. Like, I'm just not into this.

I mean I try that. That happens to be a thing that could be many, many different things. uh Tarkovsky movie or whatever, right? Yeah, anyway, I mean I I just got hit by the side. And as a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Anyways, um what? Like like something like kind of already back on your heels a little bit. Oh they call it gold. I did. Because while uh Syracusa respects spoilers, I don't want to hear anything about Megalopolis. That I mean restarting my hero and modem. It's like it's the it's just it's the sound of going to clubs and smoking clothes cigarettes to me. Cause that those are art facts. You fucks. Oh, yes, he has some absolutely terrible opinions. Because I mean, I don't know why I always come back to thinking about Buffy, but I guess Star Wars is another kind of thing where it's like, well, I on one basis for an old guy, you'd say, Oh, if you're if you're interested in Star Wars, just go watch the 1977 movie.

Which was uh her and my friend Todd, who is the most gay, least out man I've ever known at the time. That's not funny then. Yeah. He's it could be he's just flipping through TikTok, but I think that's I suspect also kind of when he's at the day is winding down and he's kind of Um so here we are in Spain. And I'm not complaining. Do you know any other little like any younger kids who are doing math stuff? It wasn't something you link to the link. by the the yeah anyway you check it out later it's pretty funny I I changed the music that he's dancing to and I thought it was I regarded it as funny the way it turned out. Oh that's What? Who are constantly questioning him. It is. As Logan Roy would say, I don't think those are serious people or really self-aware people.

Do real people say digga challenge. Because John Cleese, who is kind of a bad person, but is extremely funny. No. My My Dad brought the car back without any gas in it. I been an eight stretch. Again, terrific run. Everyone a color of your own crystal. I mean that's part of it. Okay, they do leave gifts for the couple of signs. Wow, wow, wow. Oble had uh had been in my mother's high school class at Hughes, uh Hughes High School, uh graduating class of 1952. It's very weird. We'll talk about some of the things. Which I which is not, I mean, I don't know. I was I was gonna ask, d what what do you imagine is going on in his head? I didn't wanna that's a lie. It's hard to know where to start. And then I hear I hear something like you like getting through your microphone and getting all arranged.

Over. And the condemned man says, I w I wasn't, you know, I wasn't taking his name in vain. Amongst all my friends, which is I think Ari and I should live together. That's not really how I am. But there's another person over here who's like, I'm not only gonna watch it again, but I'm super gonna pay attention. Can you do arithmetic off the dome? Um but I don't I don't I do know kids that age, but I don't I haven't talked to them about maths very much. No, I'm not saying everything is everything, but I uh I couldn't take my eyes off of her for or like just a weird new face, yeah. Oh, the video of the video. I'm a veteran. No. So so basically Eric Idol shows up at this place and he at first he's in the wrong place.

Like I I love language qua language. I wandered around for an hour and it actually was less sad thing. You got thirty, I got thirty uh thirty to ninety, sixty, I think he'd be ninety. Um which I think is also somewhat I don't I guess it's relevant to say the only time I ever heard the word arithmetic was At that point. Yeah, you know what I'm probably talking about. Pretty pretty soon probably. Why can't they see they're just like me? And the same thing with Monty Python. Mm. That's sickening. Wow. You don't want to get spoiled on Vic Burger. In the morning. What did you Sorry, keep thinking about my mom can't say queer. Yeah. And I absolutely don't understand why you think this is good. So that brings us by let me just go up to uh Fantastic Cal.

Yeah. There's a term we can't use anymore, and it's such a good term. Big shoulders, Rick and Backer twelve string. And that and in which case that would be like dogs probably, right? Now, first of all, straight out the box. That's not very nice. Oh, that's terrible. I did. It was Oh my god. Sometimes he boogies. Um I don't know. Is that a DVD of Fight Club? But it it he'll be like, hey, can I bother your you during this? I I disagree. And I didn't know though that was a dance. He will get Do you think it's damaging when I say something like that when you say that somebody has a mind of their own? Learn more of what I I have learned is considered a more modern preparation for algebra, uh w in with more estimating.

I I've been avoiding it because I w worry we have a I worry that I'm going to I've been avoiding rectifs. Um, I don't know. It doesn't really have that much of a role in our life and how we deal with other people unless, unless, unless you say something that they think is one of the bad words that has never existed. They're not playing war. She just wants to flip through her phone and look at things and unwind. Well it is a th it is absolutely is a thing, Alex. I I have to understand that it's a good idea. This is it. The bit is that he keeps arguing with them. Writing that one down too. What is it about that day? Got anything special planned? I'm d I I it's just for contrast. It doesn't really matter.

Yes, no, I wanna You did the weave. I'm not saying weird to sound cool. Why do I listen to Pixies? You like that? I most certainly told you this is where you get an argument. Russian dog, like a solution? Constantly talking about Mine Python like so many of us did, where it's like it's the shibleth or the secret language for like Matt Matt could go with a whole bunch of people. Okay, and so uh yeah, I do not think that you should constantly berate your partner into getting into something unless No, I w I want to hear the impressions. But maybe you heard this on more than one occasion from people like me. But like where he does like this like sixteenth of a circle sort of like turn from side to side while he stands there thinking he looks like Miss Lane.

It's a comment about I just don't want this on my screen right now. I guess I you know you're taught something, especially arithmetic. Just for the hair and the skin, it's worth catching up. That entire area from the top of his ribcage to the bottom of his buttocks is a contiguous quarter of an orange. Can I go start a restart my router? Hang on, hang on. Even if you didn't do this challenge, you've you're getting me excited about the Monty Python. I'm making him a little more Spanish. It's there's a YouTube channel where they have three three German shepherds and they feed 'em foods and and they do like little reviews based on how much the dog liked the food. Like, I have accepted that Madeline will tolerate a little bit of Taskmaster when she's in the room, but I have not had any success.

What about and then is that is that also the reason why you don't know Chris Fleming as well as you should? Oh welcome to the family. You don't have to go like me and get too uh too into everything. It's all it's all uh it's all coming back to him now. He says, Okay, very very very good. See no I can't I can't no, he was my best friend. Chicken, grain, rowboat. The truth is I love disappearing into things. He's also in V is for Vendetta. Is that possible? You sound an old testament god. Well, there you are. Okay. No. I'm it's exciting to me that that there is at least somebody out there who does care. And it's one of those things where like it's like entering the dojo. It won't go away. That's not something a friend says to another friend.

I think you try a lot. Life is complicated. It's not a good thing. So I go, hello, and you go, oh, oh, oh. I know the real truth. And gobble it up. Cause like y if he was if he's established uh I'm sorry, it's not my business, but if he's established a baseline of view is like There is absolutely nothing about this. Hang on. Okay, I'm gonna play it over the hold on. I really want to know why you continue to use this app. Hello. Fucking morons stand in hundred degree heat to watch him sway gently from side to side to a Rufus Wainwright song? Alright, I'm gonna do three, two, one, play. Wait, I gotta crack it, I gotta see out This is gonna be it for me. I'm gonna very carefully excise the things that I think are dangerous to society or to you personally.

Challenge this week was to uh get somebody excited about something. Oh no is here to interact with someone? Because uh I'm glad you said that. So you could just tell Matt that if it helps his career. No, that's on Russian. I love that story! This one. And I'm sorry, I know I've I'm acquainted with somebody who works there. And all all what I'm really looking for, my answer to that is where's the Xbox to dismiss this? I mean just because you made contact, you know, you can still foul out. I'm doing alright. Oh, yikes. It's him on the sort of on the left side of the stage turning, I think, to talk to her. And it's like well yeah, but I could do a survey about whether the thing on our highway is called a ramp.

You just not look at it, but then it says, Uh uh like you, people hand me things. Interesting. I don't know. That's what that's what they were called. It was bad. And I don't know. Yeah, frog fasteners that I definitely should have known what those were because What what what was it this this is still an unsettled thing and I I don't I don't like to to make you look at your mind, but Everybody knows this. I was just trying to do that. I mean it varies. I I mean, hmm. You're like a you're like an alligator just dragging me down to your meat locker. And I said, No, no, no. That would be one that's like Sloan for me where it would be really challenging because I don't know what level I would want to take it at.

Yes. And you know, and they they they, you know, care about uh, you know, like weird normal people shit that I don't care about. I'm so into like and I'm like, Madeline, Madeline, that guy, the guy who just sold Daenerys, uh, did you know that that he was uh Javert in uh in an old version of La Miz? I at the end I'm like, oh my gosh, yeah, and let's look at the calendar and just always, you know, we always just double check at uh at the end of the call to make sure we're clear for the next one or are there any obvious things coming up? If you were able to do mathematics you would know how old I would be. Yeah, 90. Yeah. Um gosh, I'm sorry I lost my thread. Out and on one of the on uh I think it was on Nicole Wallace, they started it running at the top of the show.

Oh. And it's like, well, no. Something as soon as he starts to feel a feeling that he doesn't like feeling, it cuts over to anger, like with so many men. Is this the show you want to make? It's very funny that somebody would come out to your house with a truck full of stuff to like amuse your cat. Like what am I gonna say? And again, if you if you only look at what the words are and what people are saying, it's very, it's all very, very, very complicated. Nope. You know what I mean? No, no. Other people afraid oh, right, right? Just like the idea of just like the idea of Donald Trump swaying to stigmata by ministry for a few minutes. Al Jorgensen. What's the word? I'm so glad you mentioned that because you're not allowed in the theater unless you pronounce it right.

You noted lateral, which I find interesting. It's different. Do you fucking Okay, okay, go ahead. Okay, look, can I just stipulate for the record? Sometimes he did does a little bit of his uh oh what did somebody call it the sunroom shuffle or the sundown shuffle. I'm saying like the staff, everybody, every time Trump enters a room, everyone stands up and he he gets a standing ovation every time he enters or exits a room. What but what is that noise for? Chicago. This part's really funny. She's been talking to like professionals, like really annoying doctors, like all day. Huh. We uh I guess do companionable play but square. But anyhow. Maybe. They're just like like doing things with blocks and falling over and stuff, like babies do.

And no, it seems to me, I don't have science on this, but it seems to me that no matter how inertly, how openly It was never called. Yeah, right, right, right. Um go ahead. And um and I I d was not trying to disparage any kind of queer people. It's mostly extremely positive. Yes. And I'm like, and this is the so this is like where Ramsey Snow, at this point, Ramsey Snow has, you know, has Theon, you know. I thought it's my is it my ex's birthday? Like within an order or two of magnitude, this is how likely how big that number is likely to be. Like you, you know, you're usually bound by all kind I mean, you would not believe what the teachers at our school have to go through. You shouldn't click on things either.

Are there any women here? No, no, like a there are I mean with a a Russian dog trainer because there are many German uh I've jumped around a lot, but now we just got past Reigns of Castingir. But you've got to you've said it. Right now there's a pop-up on my first of all, this is the largest non-dismissible giant S screen I've ever seen. And I think that's a good idea. See it. I think he I think he oscillates between fairly erratic They don't you know, that record came out forty years ago. I get up and uh you know, sometimes I there's people and other times there's not and yeah, I mean then eventually I go to sleep and I'll die. No, don't I m you know everybody dies. There's one that's a six usually a six string.

Like um do you know what I mean? Oh shit, did we just did we just problem solved? Incongruent? Not even a little bit. I I yeah it could be. I love when he mouse thank you to people. Because that kind of sounds a lot like some bad situations that are out there where we tell people what didn't didn't happen. I know the real truth. But first John Cleese, as the the Pharisee or whatever, has to read the thing. I think this might have been another That's weirdly related to the challenge. Or, you know, whatever your version of that. Okay. Is that 95? Like 'cause he wasn't taught long division the way we do long division. And like, I don't know. I'm not trying to sound like a cool dad like Tim Walls.

I don't want to go into a Twitter thing again, but yes, it was a link to the side. I'm not sure that that technically scores six points for the he's a fascist side, but it sure doesn't help. I was disappointed that he didn't go into his Phantom of the Opera bit. I sh sh No, I uh don't want to be spoiled about Megalopolis because it is, I think. That's a lie. No, I do I do not. This is this is where it ends. That's going to make me very resistant to like clicking around and noodling around because I don't want to retroactively destroy our recording. Not yet. Ten across, ten down. It's n i I do not go searching for these things, but when they are sent to me, I get And um there were some problems.

She's trying so hard to make him look good and to be supportive and to kind of half-heartedly do like her own version of the YMCA dance and all that stuff. But the face, the face. I mean I I for whatever reason I I'm rarely uh woken up by another And then he says, and he goes, thank you. Give me an example. Oh go watch the Holy Grail three times a day like I did. And then one of the dogs is eating the egg a little slower than the other two, and the other two kind of turn and look at him a little bit. Mm-hmm. He's fantastic. It's it th the thing is you're making such a great point, Alex. And it's because he has uh now what appear to be baby bearing. I'm not a big I'm not a wet son. Yeah. Oh my god.

Oh, yours is way better than mine. Okay. And out of the audience a rock comes and hits the old man in the head. And I've realized that our evenings at home should be a form of parallel play. And if it's something m new, like when I wanted to uh intro like if one of us wants to introduce a show or whatever Um, because I don't know. Actually, I don't know if it's wholesome as much as it is Catholic, because I'm like, oh yeah, my math teacher went to well, a math teacher, uh, surprisingly diverse. Correct. It's an interesting contrast to a curious person, is that uh uh Mrs. You successfully did the weave. Yep. I mean I wake up, you know, sometime in the morning and then uh, you know, I sometimes I take the bath a lot.

How would you go about talking about your life in an authentic way? What kind of dancing do you do? I hope that's okay. I'm not saying that I'm right. Do you know what I mean? It's really not, it's really not. That's not gonna work either. And we learned those. Do it do it while you're seated. He's a little bit he's tried to stay woke, but like, oh my gosh, why would he say such an ugly thing? That is to them. Like, what time is it? Congruent. Oh. Uh uh okay. All I get sent so many things from people and the URL is x. And sometimes that'll propel him to his next positive emotion emotion as well, because he really likes seeing other people fail. The old gods or the new? Yeah, that's that's when they came back super hard in techno.

Mm-hmm. I I think I think you're getting confused about the influences. And his mother says he's a very naughty. But here's what is under it is a modal that says, how was your studio session? I am here for your show. I should do a pretty peak fee mix and and and so I could hear myself more and and now you're quiet, but it's okay. How do I save it? Because I just have to I I just want to know. What's the word? It's really I guess it's my thing. Sorry, uh John's uh mother's mother's daughter's mother partner uh and I should get together because we like talking about what that guy on TV is from. And then um your response to a lot of those is oh let me do it again. And then Donald Trump is not exactly dancing.

Whereas when there's a med medical emergency, you can see how uncomfortable he is I th I think I have a Trump lie in place where I don't want to talk about Donald Trump. Hello, hello. And so now how could you tell stories about your life if you had to limit yourself What's the problem here? Nah, no, that's not in your I like the idea of a Russian dog. And well, Tina plays Pokemon Go. Love it, love it, love it. Everything about this app is less reliable and less to fault tolerant. Okay. You are back. Hey, look, here's the here's the good news. He doesn't listen to the show unless I say Merlin was funny, and then he likes the show. I'm fucking losing it. But like when you pair that then with on the one hand the slightly more academic ideas in semiotics and structuralism.

Well, communicates, talks? Oh yeah. Okay. Yes. Why not? If it was 29. Yeah. It isn't none of that stuff really exists. Well but by your time, even by my time, it could c uh arithmetic was not a word. I was like and and I sound like somebody at the Washington Post or New York Times. Anyway, I most definitely told you that this is, you know. And uh my friend Todd. What a great story that would be! This is I can't opt over challenge. But the truth is, Madeline and I are very different people in certain ways. And she's like, looking at her phone. Hello, hello, hello. I um I always try to allow the widest possible expanse for whatever it is that you're bringing with you in a given day. Like there was all these different ways to teach arithmetic.

Which is also it's a good word. When the creatures of the night or whatever, you got the fucking boat, you got the half mask. Yeah, it's hilarious. It's uh more more like kind of sort of like dancy goth music. And with this like northern English accent, it's like, what are you saying? Like the one that Tom Petty has on the cover of Damn the Torpedoes. I love language just as a device. Maybe, maybe they're just not good at at math. No, but if you can imagine like uh the area of your body where you're like, oh you want to stretch your back and you put your hands back Take your time. I am very excited. Oh could just be what I did, but sure, it's a Vic Burger situation. But just in that moment, swaying back and forth.

The way you move up in this organization is by c not only constantly agreeing with him, but by undercutting the people who agree with him not as much. I know the real truth. Doctor. No, never, never, never. I'm a unicorn, but not the kind you read about in magazines. It's like it's okay. It's it's called you what what is the bit here? His name is for a woman for the w the single woman, the one woman who hangs around with a group of o of those folks. Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know if our listeners would know that, Alex. And they say, Didn't I did you not know that that is a Kurosawa movie? And then he says, Well do you want to pay for do you want to pay for the one the what is the five minute argument or the full half hour?

Anyways, um, I think the way that we struggle with communication Uh I mean it is well, one, d cheaper. Like what six times seven, forty-two, nine times seven, sixty-three. I I I I'll I'll get excited about something or I'll get motivated, I'll get the energy, the enthusiasm to do something. I show up. It's just, hey, you know what? No, you would have to just you'd have to say the name of the movie. So sorry, but like I can't even impersonate Todd because he was so hilarious. You're like, Oh this is this is really what cats are like. Oh okay, so the show starts and and I'm I'm sitting here and um I So I'll be recording on uh October 29th. But it was going out of fashion though. You know, Wednesday mornings are are complicated for me.

Except in this case because I saw it and thought, okay, how long did this go on for? And then he just stands there and And then another voice tells him that that's how he should be and he should pursue that. I'm thinking of like something like valves, but there's some kind of cutover that happens. Mm-hmm. This sk the what is it, the um the treadle's gone out of skew. No, no, no, no, no, no. I really I would love you to get somewhere beyond It's really, really bad. Everyone's afraid oh. You know what I'm saying? This kind of dancing that everybody used to do. And like so I'm there, I'm wearing probably some like dr black clothes and maybe some lace and I got like fingerless gloves and a lot of like Oh good.

We're like, we're not sure. Yeah. No, really? Oh, I I totally know. I just copy and paste it. You've got you've got a you've nor normalized. You do more like Stuart Copeland. Don't you say that? Um Hey, you know what I didn't realize until last night we're we we have a habit on reconcil I think it's a habit, but a thing we do it when we're done recording with rectifs is Really? Um, you know, probably. I I'm I forgot where I was going with the with the arithmetic stuff. I feel bad now when I don't like things. That is. It's the same Chicago. I'll do it again. You have something called play group. In VS code. of the World World, all say uh this is the thing that happens at Mar a Laga all the time.

That's what they do on office hours. And what did you do, Alex? I'm uh Oh, a guy who goes who makes a guy in a suit and tie who goes out uh because he's decided he wants to have an argument. They leave gifts for people sometimes. Is that a me problem or you problem? And by that I mean it isn't like you say, like, okay, here's a here's a great contrast. I don't I might ask. And I've just been trying to make a case to Madeline and some acquaintances of mine for a while, not for any purpose, but just to say, are you are you Alright, here we go. Um, it's just Oh my god, what is happening? Ministries from Chicago, they had a big change in their sound around 1986. And he also um he's not easily swayed by charm, which I really like.

You're I I see I could go I could go full on like Bardem with him. Yeah, yeah. Like you're not really it's not like you're having a, you know, any of those things you'd see on a TV show. And you know what she doesn't need, I've realized, is me going like, oh, did you recognize? Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying this to be mean, but this is like not something that a real person uses. Nope. And uh just kind of like we're gonna plug into the cognitive dissonance and just went with it. There were two medical emergencies in the audience because of heat. Thank you very much. I show up utterly inert. Yeah, that's true. Because, you know, bread and circuses, one way we amuse the people is that we stone. No, it's everything.

And like that's unfortunately for me, I'm going somewhere with this. Oh, how are you? I disagree. No. Were um um uh Greece. I uh yes, I have heard the term art facts. You're describing what would be a literal nightmare for me. Yes. And like oh yeah. Just you're doing that thing again. That was definitely closer to my thumb. And I didn't want to interact with it. Um I swear by both the new. He's he accidentally went into the office where you get insulted and he ends up going to the the room where John Cleese is. John Cleese is the one first one I ever, he's had so many smart things to say about Money Python. You and I, it's a bit, right? If you've watched videos of like, here's my sometimes it's dogs, but sometimes it is cats.

Uh the Oh my god. Nope. It's okay sometimes, but I just don't want that to always be the thing I have to talk about somewhere. I think that this is a cultural phase. I've I've heard I've heard Matt's remarks. Why is everything a problem? Yeah, and that's the bit. It depends. This is the second time this week I've had to use this app, and in both instances. I'm I'm I'm sorry. Yeah, that must be 95. I don't I don't like it when we I don't like it when we talk about It's like saying it's five ladies in a painting. Thank you. Okay. Like it makes her so uncomfortable to say queer. I'll do it again 'cause I'm gonna do the voice. I'm just saying that is a feeling that I the feeling that before that cats had a very specific what Um and um and you know Billy's Billy works real hard and and Madeline just wants to look at Yes, yeah.

Oh, I'm I am tar tardy to the show. What? I I uh got uh some uh l The face he makes, where he makes that kind of like a slight like a Benito Mussolini face. Boy, you can prank me. No, it's true though, like sometimes if you watch like, you know, videos again like YouTube of like animals doing what they're what they Seriously, you like keep at it? Yeah. Yeah. Like at that point, you've now forked that project a little bit. Nope. Is it my other ex's birthday? It's like, you know, because you talk like a dad, one does. But what happened at that Christine Gnome event was really something. People really like it. Almost everyone at the and he goes, Oh, we got an instant can we get a doctor, please?

You get too little and I sleep for 16 hours, you know? And like I think that's a time that he would like to believe he was happy and pretty. The face that he makes is very Yeah. And then they would say, Well, that's a really good movie, but that's not playing here right now. He's a very naughty boy. The idea that we anthropomorphize LLM certain people, I know. But like like she's okay with it being on in the room, but I can feel a little bit of pushback in the whole like But it's still there because I can't get it. Goodness gracious. Yep, yep, yep it was. I think you try a lot to happen. I mean, but like I I remembered it. It's a lateral, not a side to side. And the Voice of Fred title is always still up there going like, oh you no, you did again once again, buddy, you you you really you didn't get it this time, you know.

I'm gonna start over Well I mean it's it isn't that it's it's even less weird than working at a porn shop. And I'll be like, yes, because I've seen it. Sometimes I was actually staying with them. Mmm um th you said that. But um anyhow, uh the the the that's really good prepared for that and I don't know. And I'm not, again, you'll notice that I'm avoiding I was proud of myself last night and because I have nowhere to post anything that people can see. So like if I had way too much speed Your response so far is a pretty good indication of why I'm asking. And you do this thing where, now imagine you're standing erect, now your arms go slightly back. And you have a cloved cigarette and your finger dangling and your arms are like behind you.

I just had a lovely piece of my wife had made a lovely piece of halibut. Oh by me. Well but if a uh if a cat puts Okay, go ahead. Congruent. Congruent. I actually press the side of my cheek back with the palm of my hand so I can breathe. Why I don't have many. Oh Alex. Take your time. It's like Tiny Dancer or uh, you know, I had no idea he was so so slow into November rain. Why are you listening to that? Oh, it could be a masturbation joke, but I was referring to Jamie Lannister. What'd you do for the challenge? Oh, I might have a new favorite Todd. Six thirty six sixty, but or three thirty. But it'll probably be forty-five minutes later. That's something I could get better at. Like we'll we'll do that except it's with our And doesn't it vary also though, like based on like how many people are watching it?

And I don't I realized that and I had a nice little general moment with myself, which is like I'm What? And I I've tried to I don't know another way to do it. And then you're not going to be able to do that. I'm just trying to say like if you if you still have an idea of how weird he is that formed in July of 2015 and had some tweaks to it over the next nine years. Um uh for myself. Hopefully that does something in my s That's a place they would play YMCA. The Mom Mom Mom Mom. Do you think I that somehow it's meant to be insulting on my And it feels disrespectful for just for myself. It's um and we also have Don't you sometimes have an intuition though about what roughly what the answer is to like 'cause I I I don't know.

I got stepped over! Um I I do. Oh my god. And you know, they self-identify. Care about a different word. And he goes, wait a minute. I I think my wife and Syracuse should get together just 'cause neither of them liked it. You there's that whole thing of like, oh yeah, like as you'll see in a minute here, you don't close it too soon or we'll won't get to the person, which is really Bush League. Oh. Um all right. Hmm. I don't need to understand the plot of Blood Meridian to enjoy reading it. And the thing that you have in the early days when babies are just stupid and can't do anything, you just call it parallel play, which is as the kids develop and get a little older. There you go. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be clever.

Because it lives alongside things like Common Core. Mm-hmm. I could explain this to you, but the spectacle of this man who, by the way, shots of him Oh I uh feel like Oh oh The good news is I'm glad that there are at least a handful of people who still do care in some way about language and the power it has to do more than just Because I feel like day to day, I encounter a lot of people who are like language, eh Money Python for that matter that's another great example I think. But like it's like I uh uh to me like I love stuff And just I'm so fucking annoying. This is Do by Friday, a weekly challenge podcast with Alex Cox and Merlin Mann. Oh how? Um, so uh you shouldn't regret that at all. Okay, go ahead.

And we talked about this a long time ago, but uh the way that he learned arithmetic Do you know what I mean? Every art fag would be honored that you are mentioning art fags. If I only put it a different way, young people, what if I just started arbitrarily saying to you those there are memories of things that you have that don't exist anymore? Nothing. And I go, oh, okay, so it's so see, so let's see. And I always think about that when I'm watching Monty Python, because on some level, not everything. V. You know, there's not an easy way to be accepted at the dojo. No, yeah. And then uh when when it's been like, oh, nope It better be fucking funny, Alex. Huh, yes. You mean like in that case or uh just in general?

Or to lose my or to lose my right hand because that's my dueling hand. You didn't you didn't like exactly put that in the bleachers. We're we're talking about abstract, you know. I'm I'm a big bulbous daddy. I was like, well, yeah, I will take my time. Women aren't allowed to go to the stonings. I just want people to be happy. But you're gonna have to use Chat GPT. But like my kid knows how to do that stuff. I mean, unless you're d homeschooling. And he's trying to figure out what's gonna happen with this person who might be dying. Did I do anything to make you you got weird about it. I was going to So you're bending back and your your head is kind of going up and you're kind of like into the music, but your arms are back.

And they said, Well, did did you did you know that Star Wars was very influenced by the films of Kurosawa? like it's on like HBO a lot when I was a kid. Like there was there was no up or down I mean it's it's pretty it's pretty complicated and and and sad and not that interesting, but I started Sometimes it works, and if you do it contextually right I think the next episode the next episode is the wedding of the the wedding of Joffrey and um and Marjorie. But it's it's w it's important to realize And as I got old as I have gotten older, I've really thought, oh, that's really smart and I admire that. They don't do long division. I it might be a surprise party. I do. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I didn't say it was hilarious. Well, uh, it's just it's a really good record, and it's from a time that I was excited about music, etc. It's a very funny word. I bet that's fine. It's like when you asked me if it's okay to put the show out on Thursday. Great, great, great. And like I could my mom would do would flashcard me and I would always be like six times seven would always screw me up and nine times seven would always screw me up. I just the experience you had. Lawrence O'Donnell said this about like you can almost imagine him like standing. Let me get it loose. In some of the occasional conversations I've had to have with Matt, that's how he came across to me. I love stuff like that. So Matt will ask I bother you during this.

Hello, Alex. I realized and by the way, do I have to do that? 'Cause I'm sure you did something for the challenge. Why can't you just say thank you? Mega megalopolis. And we're all so bound up, these so hidebound in these old ideas that But not a bit. In congruence. But um no. It's not a bit. And before that, they were much more um It's the same in the whole wide world. I didn't think I would just dances. He is like I think he doesn't like to laugh. Like that is the time of day when I am most in need. Welcome to the alphabet fo family. I would agree with any number you said. It's wild. Oh, they they uh love it. Are you confused It's not latency. Uh so they say. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun bop beep bop bop bop beep bop.

And I I I it would be better. It's like it's just because I will it, because I want it. Because on the one hand, there's one person over here who like if they had their drrothers probably wouldn't want to watch it again. Alex, sweetheart, did you watch I was like if you've got an idea in your mind and you haven't like sort of updated that in a little while That's where it all is. So I can check my usual I can check my usual uh suspects. Is is it worse than midget? It's called the argument clinic. That's the end? It's really funny. Oh God. Well I ruined all of the bits, but how uh this one specifically. Like my brother, because my brother a year later, no, no, not Cancer. It doesn't really give you a feel for like what all you're in for with this.

That's a I mean that's a good question. I am a tabula rasa every time I show up here and That's not news. That's fine to say. And that that's not important. And I meant that in it that So I mean we wouldn't even need to be able to do that. You know, the joke that's not a joke where I'm always like, oh my fucking family's always looking at their phone. So it's so you don't put it in spaces, you put it in tabs. I'm not making fun of you. I watched the whole fucking thing on YouTube. That's literally what the term was. I really wanted to see Megalopolis as uh Exactly. We're in um second, third episode of season four Oh would you phrase companionable silence? And it was always like, okay, we're gonna go take our naps and like we have to you have to be quiet out here.

I don't know the the nomenclature. You don't mm mm, all right, yeah. Like if you watch clips, you see clips of a Kenneth Anger movie, but then watch the whole thing, it's like you realize what a different thing that is. It's sort of the way he'll end a you know, like a I think he knows that people really like it But anyway, let's not talk about his body anymore, except to say that he's a big role-poli man. But um anyways, uh but there's a great bit in Brian where he and his mother But I get a little bit impressive. Exercise discipline. And then it says, hey, you know, let's talk about what you didn't like about it. I think eventually I didn't I didn't even want to like submit anything because I don't want to be a dick about it.

And I was like, wow, I don't think I ever precisely learned that, which is not uh it's not saying much because I'm not an arithmetic guy, but Like how about you care about some of my words, you guys? And he's like, he's being sentenced to being stoned to death because he took the name of the of our Lord in vain. This is Exactly. And you know, I even though I'm watching it, my brain is open. I had a lot of, I still remember this. Oh yeah, we're gonna talk about the different levels. But like Yeah. Matt is a tough listener. Oh that's good. But they call it I love that term parallel play. And I thought I thought to myself, huh. No, no, it's a good thing. So we went to like a specific part where of him swinging or something.

But just because people said it isn't it? Look at this genius. So and that's why we joke since 2016-16 about the thing where And then Graham Chapman goes into his receive pronunciation. And John Cleese goes, Who did that? I I mean I think a lot of people have this I don't know what that is, but it's gonna be a good thing. Like we struggle so hard to communicate sometimes and we find a way to hopefully make it funny by turning it into a bit. So maybe spaces in and tabs. I was listening to another one of your programs, Reconcilable Differences. They do a different thing. And you'd take that test every day until you got them all right. But like, you know, when you experience art versus like learn about art, Like uh like uh I'm ready to leave the house.

Uh actual attention, but in real time, not watching anything. Oh. Cause like I say, that's pretty close if you if you look at it from a certain angle. Mmm And it says, well, wait a minute. And that's like there's stuff but a lot of the stuff does Like by the time we get to nine o'clock, that's that's not when I'm gonna pull up Criterion Channel and and you know, and and watch a uh He's a very nice guy and yes, he's a very good podcast boy. I I say I want people to be happy Uh in the 70s, there was a thing called new math. But it you can't there's so much about that that can only it's The reason I say it's like Andy Warhol or whatever is like I know just because you're weird, but I'm really nice about it.

And and you're and there's an element of that of like And he goes, No, no, do you understand? No, no, no, no. As this is yet another thing where I've realized I need to make sure I'm not being too ego-assertive. How are you? I'm a fucking doctor. Yeah. Because the talking or the thinking? And you're just not allowed, you're kind of allowed to remember, but you're never allowed to say it. And he goes, yeah, that's he says he says that was number five minutes. Or Beagles dictates a letter, you know, the source of our wonderful bit about the antlers. Oh my god. Here's me trying to be able to breathe and and then and you go and and then I I've been waiting over here. It better be fucking funny. And it it turned into a very odd thing where Trump just asked his people to play music and then he kind of moved to the music, which is Like you you just you just didn't know a word and that's okay.

You guys seen the meat locker? Oh, all all of you people making my my life miserable, quit it because I've regarded you as not serious. Exactly I would just like somebody to see something on their schedule. And it's kind of working. I love that phrase by the way. Uh-huh. And I thought, oh no, it's the 50th anniversary of uh my dad's death. What a weird bunch of songs to play when somebody's health is in question. I truly It's okay. I said it was exciting. Is that the show you want to make? Did you ever see Life of Brian? Oh my god, thank you so much. I went to visit him one time and while I was there I bought a guitar, nineteen eighty eight. And one of those ways is like the way that we let's just leave it at this.

Uh hi. I just think it's worth distinguishing between mathematics and arithmetic. I'm like, you really you should if you have an idea But what you're swe I'm agree I totally agree with you, where it's difficult to explain exactly what and how We talked about Godfather for like an hour last night on Recdiffs. Like he's aware that he makes errors sometimes. It Is that bad to say that someone has a mind of their own? It's really cute. No. My kid looking at his phone. Great, I'm here I didn't. It is I okay, I can speak on authority with this. com. And he's definitely, I feel like kind of done that. But again, I just want to be clear. Like like And he goes, Yes, it is. And when you get there That it's in it have it's because I'm in awe of your voice and your presence.

Just to keep your bases covered or well it's just that if somebody if somebody in Westeros is threatening my life Have you ever heard that song um Every Day is Halloween? I think it is important to because for the Auble was her name. It lives alongside other kinds of changes and developments and I could really show it to you. But that's the meta, it's it's like it's both meta and about language. If uh there's some theories around if like your cat I uh I I didn't want him And she goes, What? Stay here until your recording is done uploading. It's not the right word, but I like the way you say it. What was the point of Mrs. And I try to say them. No, how do I describe this? And this does will not make any fucking sense.

Learning a different thing though. Why is that a thing? Call you back. So sh all there's all of these obviously well it's Oh my god, I love Todd so much. Because it's got a fight club DVD in its little mouth. You've made it okay to have conversations like that. Talk about a surprise party. Well, okay, that's so interesting 'cause cause when I was a kid there was something called there when I in the seventies And it's like the but now take that and make it about am I doing a good and interesting thing right now. It's like I swear to god I'm losing my fucking mind. It feels like kind of tone tone. So they get along great. I I can't do math. Well, you no, no, but like do you really I do feel that in your bones?

I get links. That's the internet thing. Anyway, I can make sounds with my mouth. This genius thinks he knows about clothes. Um, yeah, but like I was so beguiled. It's a good question. Mom Mom The challenge this week is to get somebody excited about something I did this I even put on the channel. Really? I don't know if it's even a problem. I have so many friends. So that's tonight, uh, Tuesday, October. I distinctly remember like a decade ago listening to all the podcasters. But he wanna all I just want to get out he did not have to And it's also Do we do the gay song? That's where it all is. Like, thanks. I go through a lot of the day, whether I like this or not, it was good day, bad day, like whatever.

Or if it's for somebody But anyways, Chicago, hell of a town. No but cats just sort of happen to be a little bit more than a little bit. Which is true for some things and it is a funny bit bit, so it's okay to but you know use it advisably. Well I'm God, I can say whatever I want. People just called it math. This is such an interesting and upsetting Two, it's standard wiki's money account. Did you ever have to learn your times tables? And I just want to be super clear. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. You're born in nineteen ninety, you tur became an adult in nineteen ninety-eight. And then I'm gonna go. If if you were to go back and do a supercut at the beginning of If you drag me down into some weird fucking thing while I'm trying to make the show I'm using He does a little bit or Let me get it big.

Like you can't just argue about whether or not we're having an argument. I don't think you deserve a danger for that. And I was like, I I don't know how to help my kid. You got weird about it, and then I said, Well it is a D did you see I made a funny movie last night? Is it worse than it's just the same b well it's it's a kind so like there'd be a kind of dancing And uh sorry. And I was like, never mind. I would love to start socializing that. Is that your phrase? Um let me try something a little more four on the floor You go like this like oh Do do you imagine you people out there who are I guess you've mostly finished college, so you've got it all figured out. But you know what I realized?

Actual doctors who went to medical school. Yes. Um I'll just talk over you like I do. That's the handsome guy in the in the hussard jacket with the frog uh attachments. Uh in that case, because I I'm sure a a different type of d And then sometimes we get a little little view of that. They're used to people coming in and asking for the movie that's playing. And you went, did I pronounce it wrong? You're gonna you're gonna have to like get through a lot. They're not having a tea party. I don't know another way to do it, but no matter what I say in your and then that becomes a a question about me. Miss Ms Mrs. Nick is always pushing you around one way or another. I I can't see it. Yes. Who did that?

What'd I do wrong? And um so he's used to that and he likes to buy DJ. I shouldn't feel bad if I don't like a thing. And there's ways in which I am I think I and a lot of people are are like him I think that's where my friend taped it. I think it's time for a huge partner swap. So my mom knew my math teacher, Cincinnati, small town. Thanks for thanks for the permission. Because no, no, it's not a hilarious. Tired Merlin talks about taking a bath. Who are they? Eag Even at my age, I could show it to you. I know art facts. No, don't no longer honey honey. Um, and I just learned that I am uh saying uh Because the beginning there was the little dance and then the it still ended with the little dance.

Uh it was in a it was it was built as a town hall, hosted by the governor of North I've heard about this where he Um How about costly and expensive? Like I would am about to sweat. But I And sometimes I just wait for you to say something, but a lot of times I'll say something like, I don't know, I feel like I say something like Sorry. And then, you know, Todd came out and Todd, uh, last I heard Thank you very much. Because mine rhymes with the F-word. I I I'm just Bopy bop bup buppy buppy bopum bop bop. Because I was going to say I uh like I've talked about our uh There's gonna be stuff that falls right right off the uh Thank you, thank you. Um he does more of like a circular rotation. Oh both.

The The Rick and Backer you probably know is a six sixty or a three thirty You might know the the Rick and Backer that like is the one that like Does that mean I want to watch like Roadrunner cartoons? If it makes him look like he won. And and we would call that art fag dancing. Spe The stoning doesn't start until I say that it starts. Here's like my five cats. That's why they are so much more inter uh interesting because You would have a lot to talk about. Normally Auble? Are they the ones that control the weather? Like he hasn't told him once. So No, it's not. I think it's like 14 seconds long. Oh yes. It's me. And that was the mat. I mean some of it's just like it's hilarious that you've hired someone.

I had a way I could I had a way to fake it that I'd done this challenge, but now I feel like I have It the it is probably it's the size of like a five by or like a five by seven card. This is what everyone said back then. But you know what I realized about Billy? But But like it is truly this was from the law. I didn't pursue making you feel bad about it. And he creates a positive feedback loop with his internal dialogue, I guess. And but it's also a very funny term. And he goes, yes, it was. It's nice to be acquired, if you know what I mean. This is a thing I I mostly picked up from my kid 'cause I my kid learned arithmetic so much differently than me and Mrs. Let me test Joe. Ms. Because here's the other thing, to your point, I think.

I was there you guys. You know what I mean? And then then this is the this is the tell. You ever heard that song? I think that's why we should be a couple. Like That is such a good phrase. But uh like does Nothing, nothing. Like at what point, I wonder, did she decide? You know what I mean? I don't know if it's making sense, but um Uh how many stops before you get to Transylvania? Auble. No, it's not a bit. Obel? What's that new Francis Fort Copeland movie? At first they think it's just a scribble that somebody has made on the printout. It's just the way that his mental autocorrect works is Right. But I uh Yeah, but this one in particular you ruined. Yes. What would we talk about if I if I if I shared that with you?

When's the last time you went to the mattresses about that? Yeah. I am I was I sit in the corner and type while Tim Heideker addresses a camera. Now imagine bending backwards just a little bit. Had a great time. We're all line the three of us are lined up on the couch, like the three little bears, right? Mrs. I I think he's not. Well neither of them likes me. That's who she works with. Sometime around after lunch, sometime around like one or two, they'd sleep for an hour. That was Is that the show you want? And sometimes it could just be like Do you want to try that word again? Um Look no further than like, does he surround himself with with people Like it's I moved I I changed friend groups at one point.

That's a true story. Auble. Mrs. I could emulate it. So your host. And hold hold on Anyway, he's very heavy. I know he's not probably a particularly nice person, but he's kind of a genius. All I want is this I Are there any other questions? Because the math thing almost started here. He says, Yes, I can. Can I ask you to look at it? No. And he says, Well, no, you didn't tell me. Yeah. Obel And you know what I mean? Right. So you're playing Snake in Python on a web browser, is that right? Yeah. He goes in, is this is this is this where I uh can have an argument? Went to the loop. Watch TV is very different. Both He's doing parallel play too. Yes. Mrs. Stay safe. You know that song? And the same You shouldn't be talking.

See if you can get the word I was saying. Um So imagine me. I think they're probably l At least life in Western culture that as I live it is very interesting. And I feel like they could really find some Well, Cancer Boy also didn't have to learn it. Because I'm not just talking about somebody who's visiting from Yes. Like Please honey. I try not to be ego assertive. You know, just the kind of thing that Auble, um, Bertie's bits, um I just can't even imagine what you feel right now. Sometimes they'd wear hats. No, I don't mean it negatively. In ch in Chicago? And what was I saying about uh arithmetic and math? Yeah. Is it Magnificent Seven? Um I think I think Matt Do you declare it or is it just something you pick up?

And not medievalists. Um you learn your times tables, which is Apparently he hogs the ox. Yes. If you've got if you've got if you've got He seems like a nice guy. Yes, please. Nah. Like This is why this is that that in a nut is why I But we all struggle every day. Oh, right. Frog and frog closures. I It's like, well. Oh. Uh Neither should you. Wow. That was so fucking I mean that that Yep. Congruent? He is I try not to do bits. You there. This is a I It was like a two-minute clip. Like she's you could Oh raw transcript