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I'm talking about real things. But I'm like, do you know about skimmers, honey? Uh things we can't say on the main episode where we bitch about delivery services. But it was so memorable to me. They don't have 24 packs, but I could get the same thing with two 12 packs. Whereas I, to contrast, go way out of my way to never think or talk about money. But uh what are ads other than a way to facilitate getting uh paid for your your work? He looks kind of like a cartoon character. You should pick your Medicare plan, get your new catheters, like all that stuff, just like I understand there's targeting to that, but like the problem is the cumulative, the gestalt of that. And if that's for worse for 99.

And it's like cause you've got to scream over the haircuts in the shopping on the radio to get people to listen. Like the way yeah, the way that we edit the show would be like uh Quinn and I get it um t uh try to get the first edit up but um by midnight and then show notes by uh Thursday morning. That has to be a good thing. I used to mostly not put things in the Patreon show notes, but increasingly I feel like there's a lot of good photographs. And I'll go, huh? And then I think I just it's almost like a trigger at that point. Uh but I love but but for the Spotify for what I use it for is like a stellar. I just need you to answer whether you've seen White Lotus. You get out of breath and then you shoot a rifle.

Uh really helps new people discover the pod. You could have killed three of these episodes so easily. Yeah, you need capitalism. Whoever's the guy who's the guy that did Doctor Who and then Sherlock? I promise I will never be mad. Uh what I'd done was I s w no mat so like what happens is sometimes and I I have theories about what causes this, but sometimes apropos of nothing I can see of which parts of it you're supposed to black out and not black out and I'm all soup Nazi about it. Uh shall I tell you now or do you want to see it for the after show? So Guardian is nominally theoretically as as a VPN, amongst other things, it's it's concealing my location. Because this planned up to there's people's jobs to keep it.

uh money. You know a word that ironically enough, a word that Felix uses a lot on uh the other Felix, Felix on Slate Money. You could buy banner ads in this one section. the South by Southwest talk in some ways. if you're hungry and and like didn't have a lot of dough, but like Godfather's Pizza had this like afternoon buffet special. Tippy-toe? So when it comes out on Friday afternoon and I didn't hear anything in between, it makes me nervous. I'm saying that's why we need to have the conversation is I need to readjust. Well right now it's a big thing. it probably an old fashioned term. Yeah, yeah. or iBooks, whatever it's called this week, you know, the Books app. That's when you saw when you saw one set of brain prints, that's when I was thinking you.

Was it was it my own? Cul Culpepper really gotta dig into it at this point. No bad on me. Fleischman is in trouble, which is Fleischmann is in trouble. Yeah. So she's a lot of people. Glenn Howerton loves saying that on the Sunny podcast. journal. Uh the watch has been great lately. Like I came, I finished right there. One of the great things. I'm and like you are. I learned that from War being fired from Gimlet. Um wait, like locking your account as in like perma banning? That's so boring. No, I it it's close the faucet a little bit. But when I had my own. Please call and verify your last transaction and kind of stuff and whatever. for more than one visit and the only way there is no password they do like like the the kakamimi relay thing where like you've got to go and like you've got to go to your email and click a link to visit the site Please capture that.

Right. Because you don't want the thing to happen. I'm supposed to zap out my birth date. We get Instacart that that deli to delivers the things. I was there, Jack, feeding you. Larry goes, I don't like this. And Roman man's um means and thank you, Mass Man. You know, like that. But I said under that, because I'd already put it in notes because I'd been meaning to listen to it, and I said, Alex Colon, highly recommended, because you love, not that you love money, but you think a lot about money. J Marty, Jeff, and who was the other person? And it was it was to say like and she says like oh great like learning that Toby like she wanted Toby to like be excited about Slate CEO, I don't know who that is at at that point, but I've I uh Oh it's Wilhelmina Slate.

Mm-hmm. Oof, oof, oof. Yep. It it seems like nobody cares. if you're not a sleep member. And this is this is uh in the same way that I hate the word content or content creator or or creative, creatives making content, like it's the same thing where it's like that is code. from watching the first episode, but I am watching I can watch the first episode a little differently now because I thought the money stuff and status stuff was mostly table setting. For sex things. But why uh you you seem overly hostile to a certain type of ad that it has become unavoidable. Like uh um defector because y you know, they're not the ones that are. Just stop treating me like an asshole, you know? for people to publicly talk about money in the same way at le uh the the ATP guy I guess I'm now the ATP stalker.

Yeah. Like I know that's not a book that everybody loves anymore. And like do you remember Postman Dan? it off. Who is the captain of the I Love podcast ship? n I mean I guess they do reads on that show, but somebody like a Glenn Howerton, no more than say a John Roderick. But like we c care fuck tons about this content that's being made. uh like uh ideally like you know somebody who can pull that all together right the part where that starts falling apart is where you get that little whiff of like is this is this milk bad you get a whiff of like wait a minute so That guy works so goddamn hard on that show. He obviously he works so hard and he cares so much. You know, or Taffy talking about like all the different articles pieces at the same fucking magazine.

Like um like Elizabeth said. The content of your programs, like what you make, what you write, Acer, make and do, like the stuff that you make. some kind of a discount because you didn't care where they ran and you were fine with it backfilling where there wasn't a premium ad. camera pop up or whatever. Mm-hmm. You're frequently you find yourself, oh my god, we have way too much work to do. uh that's not a place that's ever going to make a lot of of m money. You. If I could say, I will just whip out a little bit for a second, just enough to beat you, is like I'm so pleased to be able to pick who's allowed to like myself. Are you getting the right people? It's a great little business. Because I think people care like the original host of the show, they bounced years ago.

Like I I'll never forget that was one of my first fresh air interviews and it stuck with me forever. But like, okay, it can't be the same show today. I didn't notice that we had that l like one sixth of our show was ads or one fifth of our show was ads. Hulu or now Netflix. Like those again, those m terrible Medicare ads where there's one Medicare ad, Medicare Advantage, where I swear to God it's the same ad, like fifteen second ad that just runs twice and it always runs twice. And it's like they didn't make a longer ad. Oh, uh has that not been clear? And it was it was so disgusting I had to just close it. Look at all the rotating art. s like not a safe word, but an unsafe word for besides just saying notes, notes, notes.

Yeah, but I mean like b come to Dubai, sweetie, kind of guy. That like a Quinn and I would edit to the show together and get it to depending Thursday night or Friday morning, depending on what uh our various doctors' appointments. What what do you Oh six to eight times out of ten, it was good to go when I woke up Pacific time on Thursday morning. that uh Merlin w would not think about the show until Friday morning. A doctor's appointment isn't an excuse for something. that like this is the last show of the week and I am the last thing that you have to deal with until a a So like I'm I'm ready to start winding down and focusing on stuff that's not the public-facing parts of my life. Believe it or not, there's other shit I have to deal with.

I have half a hovel to deal with. Oh my god. There are things like there is an artist called various artists, which is kind of funny, and that'll show up sometimes. And I'll think, oh, that sounds like one of those songs with lots of people on it, or you know, and that's not even getting into like the the the backroom toilet bowl remix of New Order Ceremony by Lil Panties. Yeah, they have that Kath Carroll album and he'll go like okay well this is one this is a playlist called uh you know makeout club and it's like amazing indie rock songs I don't wanna have to rip every book and put in overcast. Whatever, who fucking cares? And I have an apparatus that supports it really in a w it's it's so embarrass it's not embarrassing.

Thread elegantly. But my wife has just pointed out to me that Greg from White Lotus is totally the stepdad in Napoleon Dynamite. vote for Pedro's or that's how much I think that guy that guy is in white looks he's he's Tanya's I'm sending this photo go make yourself a quesadilla He's up on the cross and talking about physics for five hours. I love good. But um but uh no I was trying to remember what when we got really into it. I would probably watch sports if steroids were a thing. We have not tapped into steroids. Oh I can't find my rifle on the city. Okay, second question. Is it? I will not hear a word against Solly. I love when she does the narration of what Toby's thinking. You know what?

Yeah, like like in the case of Andor, created by Tony Gilroy. Sometimes they couldn't even afford Yeah. Or it could be a flux, you know. you know how the room was like written by Tommy produ uh produced by Tommy Bousseau. that White Lotus is very much m uh uh like Mike's baby, y you know? Like that each story is part of a story. v unless I watched some kind of fucking YouTube video about previously on Game of Thrones. But like no matter how big an Ann Haish fan you are, you're still kinda like, was he remade psycho? Yeah, well, it's special, but they could have made them all special. But like do you remember the way how that kinda pioneered to me anyway, like a new way of dynamically showing what somebody's doing on a screen without it just just pointing at the screen like it's an anime or something like that?

And so at sea about his life right now, like he's found something that he's excited about. this flipping through an app and like you see it. Tinder, Bumble, like you you ask like what you're looking for. Cod, who used that who had that phrase? And like it you could get that sense though of like how excited he is in his day to day, like he's distracted by how excited he is. When the little lord goes to take a shower, like that's our chance to go jump into White Lotus or watch, oh my god, watch fucking Triangle of Sadness the second uh time. So Oh, nice. I brick with thee, I brick with thee, I brick with thee. You hold up the covenant, yes? And then we watched it together and he turned to me, it paused at mid-episode, and I didn't really know like cause it's not necessarily a laugh out loud show and turn to me.

and playing with earrings like all ladies in New York do. This week's challenge, watch Fleischman is in trouble. Ooh, what's the deal with grocery carts? on a given Wednesday morning. Instacart has this way of like kind of weirdly arbitrarily locking accounts for really random reasons, even though they know you very, very well. But they have well no, okay, but like, you know, if something happens and they always I'm always like, what what okay, so so okay, God Right. It goes, your order didn't go through, which of course makes me immediately feel poor. Um, you gotta retrieve your password. bank about your A ATM card or whatever. My wife will put my wife will put her card in fucking anything. There's no password.

you know, customer grooming to uh to to be approved. Things we need like right this second. Uh no for well i I wish I was a robot, but no. But it's me who gets the sneeze from the poop dusties. And the shopper can go, well, if they're out of twenty-four packs, I can still put this together. I know it's got a pound sign, it's got an Octathorp, it's got a hashtag, but four is a size, not a quantity. Yeah. I know you'll win the fight, but I think Judaic energy. uh how goops haters made gwyneth palchros company worth 250 million dollars and her thesis according to the slate money podcast which by the way you guys I know you've got a podcast at a company if you have a really good guest was it the liver, right?

But and like that stuff is sticky and I'll you know read about that all day. And like it's a fascinating person and everybody likes the person and like even Elizabeth seems to like the person and Elizabeth doesn't seem to like very much. was tasked with recording like eighteen ads that day. And I don't know what's causing it. Essentially the teaser. You get like the teaser for the episode. And to have like six minutes of ads for that just seems it seems like almost like a fuck you. creating content or monetizing, I think, is that the the remember that thing I said about like do you use a new word if it seems to be moving it towards something better and more humane? That's why I really now remind myself that a job and your work don't need to be the same thing.

Those are words that are taking us in a different direction. to feed the machine. slate um money I I guess panel with Taffy, she notes how important it is to talk about money because Yeah, that w man, all the media people are talking about how uh amazing all eight episodes are and I'm like, no, I may it is a show Fleischmann is in trouble, I think, is one of the few shows that does benefit from a week-by-week But be circumspect about whether you really want the answer. what you're trying to show with that observation? And he thinks he can talk about how everybody is stupid, and talk behind people's back about how they're stupid. He is a guy who makes podcasts, but he doesn't let's not a criticism.

in journalism, as in like the Great Wall of China, which is in as you know, right? Went to an Ivy League school, got a job at NPR, and then became a podcaster because that was the next step. Do you c I don't even want to get into do you care about podcasts as a medium because boy is that ever a that's a pretty basic thing for a person like me to expect people to have. Ditto there. Like a woman smiling and eating salad as you talk about how long it takes a plane to land at Heathrow. Why are you doing this? bright, right? n a different kind of wall, which is a sort of like industrial obliviousness to like in the same way that there's nobody who's a project manager for my health And that you've done something that's respectful to the content you've made.

When I run across advertising feels like the equivalent of run of network advertising. leaves me feeling gross, like I'm covered with a thin film of scus from this industry that doesn't love itself. Show of the the year and get back into that, but I I I really that's our clother show about like the culture and history of clothing. A n um whatever you want to call it and organization. here and what ads are on which shows and you know in relation to the host. And the boutique. versus like you know, bringing freelancers. I mean, you know, it's it's not gonna I mean if you if you're if you if you're gonna make stuff that catches on fire, you need to charge more. maybe professionally. And like so you know what I mean?

The stuff that you're producing conforms with your tacit promise with your audience or your friends. I I wanna be a writer and uh this is what's expected of me and I need to make m money and I don't want to freelance because I need my health insurance and that a a and and you can tell that there are hosts out there who are tr like Like, okay, I know that a shitty ad is coming, so we are somehow going to do a good break here so that someone can go take a shitty. keep podcasts good is having to work around the interests of people who do not like the the the people who hear that and they're like, Well, no, Merlin, I don't like podcasts. Yeah, let's we if you are talking. the people who are not there to like show off their I mentioned this on Back to Work yesterday, but I watched this t part of this terrible YouTube video about not terrible but like frustrating to me about the most expensive house in America.

I uh the I was talking to Maddie earlier this week, and I'm like, what I am most afraid of and what I am becoming without knowing it. Can you imagine ten times the um the amount of this? And uh I think it's you know what it has become a neologosm in in my house and it's Who started it? Pro oh problem most of yeah. And then uh more than a handful of times you've had everything except because your internet everything except uploading the media completely done by the time I wake up. Alex do it. And then the the uh and oh yeah, and then the next week I w like I I made just the assumption clearly communicated to me, which I did not even like. But Thursday is my Thursday, being the day where I do most of my chore things, but Thursday is also kind of my Friday, which makes Wednesday my kind of like, you know, like in college communities, Thursday is kind of a pre-Friday.

Paying for rent, oh dear lord. Give us your fucking money dot com, which is a Patreon page that uh more we used Like somebody entered this in a field as the name of the artist instead of the pull-down menu that said it's a it's a compilation or whatever, right? I used to write this down. sometimes even more obscure than my fairly obscure taste. And that's where I drag all the stuff like release radar, because like, yes, I know I can go and search for it, but should I need to do that? I I like music too. It as much as I like books, I would love to not use the Audible app. it as for reasons anyone could understand. like your bespoke favorite way of formatting a PDF. Or you can, because it already lives in iCloud, all I have to do is open any of my books in files, and they open right up in Marvin.

Oh no no no I meant uh that was my first season. The uh Tanya's husband Greg who had to go back to Denver. I love that guy. heroes versus villains. sports more fun. Come on down to the puzzle in water. see that his steroids are wearing off, it's very upsetting to me. Um pod, podcast? Kids with money only. program to watch the first episode of the Hulu Limited series. Well, uh the difference between not not just a s a script and a magazine, but uh s uh feature versus a novel and then the novel changes. I uh it's probably one of my favorite novels, you know it, of my whole whole life. recommend the audiobook over the uh i if you're into audiobooks this is an audio is it read by Lizzie Calvin So they have uh there's not going to be a second season.

How uh a as she says, if you want to be a writer now, now you need to adapt your novel needs to be adapted into a show. She got jealous of her friends and other uh uh authors and showrunners talking about making uh sh shows, so she thought Put my name, adapted by uh Taffy Brother Kerry. with the script on pulp fiction, but understandably he really wanted the, as they described in this video, the revered directed and written by. Well they're both in emotion. Like I I might have talked about it before. We do not have to say anything useful or critical or anything. of TV, which is it feels like a novel. Not just mystery box shows or not even just Prestige TV, but just this idea that like, oh, I've just gotta fucking churn through all the episodes.

And it's Star Wars. Don't think about it. Yes, it's an affliction and my family won't watch it on my apparatus. type. Sometimes that's reflected in the person's face. is ubiquitous communication and maps. I'm not going to say Stephen Moffin invented this, but Stephen Moff was the first person I ever saw make people texting each other really work on screen. Mm-hmm. study in Scarlet, whatever the woman's disappeared. Who's like commenting on Lestrand's press conference as he's giving it? Well, and not just like visually, but to convey the emotion that you have when you find out that someone you love has something terrible has happened to them. Like you or you need to see the joy of let's say seeing a bunch of people on the show.

This this American Horniness title needs to stop. Women he doesn't know want to talk to him and the way that's portrayed without just just showing his phone. Felt people just refer to them. But like I am utterly unfamiliar. Oh I don't I don't really daughter is what's her name? Jesse Ismerg all all the way. It's the first time in his l life, like how Don Jr. like this. Uh the i is your lady friend gonna gonna watch the the rest of the thing. Hello. But it is definitely a journey for me. Right. Oh yes. Defector, you need to fucking fix that shit. It was, but it that's not the point. Right? And then there's me with same thing. coffee dripper and th they're in sizes. You know, the the manner to which she hopes to become accustomed, she's gonna get, she needs these number four coffee filters.

Uh only two things. Big fan, big fan. like collaborate on the tip that we all agree to. Yeah. knew that we were going to record it and um or rather we knew that our challenge this week's challenge would be to watch Fleischmann in his is in trouble. That is so good. And uh we'll get to it when we talk about the challenge, which I'm wondering if we should just talk about the challenge because we're we're both We're already kind of talking about the challenge. Mm-hmm. a profile of hers about a celebrity without a few. Forty minutes was not enough time for that podcast episode in my opinion. Which uh sometimes I listen even I I have to pay for this late I don't have to, but I pay for this late podcast because most of them are good and because their ads are just so fucking bad.

Sad because I think I think when I turn off Guardian, I get different ads, I'm pretty sure. Stanford's extended law school program makes it available for you to get your master's degree in pseudo-law by It sounds like the person uh like it doesn't sound professionally recorded sometimes. Local businesses often use Fiverr to hire a voice artist. certain ads. Those ads weren't curated by people who care about their audience. You know, try. You know? You know, it's so it's such a like a yeah, usually. God, there are shows now where I'm like, is anybody keeping track? And then, you know, even with uh you know, with uh uh, you know, uh Lizzie and Mary, you get like, oh, you know, we'll more after the break.

But you are talking about m money. for um most shows if people want to work in a podcast in the same way that because they are repeatedly not pulling off the thing they are absolutely certain they're pulling off. the the ability to act like everybody else is stupid and they're not. Right? But like, you know, I not to just single out Avery Truffelman, but like other people that come to mind, uh Chris Melanfi from Slate Hip Parade, like 'Cause I barely notice it and I tend to look pretty carefully at those things. Like, no, it's not evil, but it very much could be wicked. not loving, caring about and having an attachment to podcasts like I do, although I do harbor that feeling privately. Is there anybody who is somebody that loves podcasts as me running that network and making sure that the pieces make sense together?

I remember initially feeling like everybody like, oh man, another one. And and then he I mean he he gave um articles of interest to Avery Truffelman, which is probably my favorite. the first like pretty books about web design as a business and like at pra practitioner stuff, but they were great books. that you're you had this graph showing like demand for your services and ability to do the work and like those graphs, those lines rarely sync up. One of the things there was this really memorable graph he published in that book about the the challenge of being a boutique, which is you know, whipping my dick out from a privilege standpoint, which is like it's really callo and unfair for me to go.

pretty pretty much control over what I do, what I make, how I do it, who I work with, all that kind of stuff. You're new to the scene. Like anything where you just fucking add a zero to anything. I mean, think about how we got pizza two nights ago from a local place. Right? And um and it was they they they then moved to a buffet model. But you've got to make that scratch, man. Let's put it this way. Mm-hmm. I'm not gonna go. But I would never want to sacrifice the interests of the people I do want to service by losing touch with the stuff that I care about and I hope they care about. Fine. have been either like uh see, I haven't thought that I've been late with the edits, but then I don't know.

When you let people down because I uh have been letting people who never talk about money are people who have an egregiously long. Okay, this is from um this is called Touring the Most Expensive House in the United States. Uh bleek, bleak, bleak. is what like is what people have said about me when they've wanted to make me think that I'm going crazy and wanting to to make me feel b bad. there would be a cut like around the time I was getting ready to go to bed on Wednesday night, just for what it's worth. Yes. T-bone. The short was more a canary in the coal mine, uh though, of like, oh something that shouldn't like yes, that But doesn't Lil Panties sound like a SoundCloud rap rapper that would appear after the word featuring?

It's like it's like using settings on Ventura. algorithmic stuff that's a little bit more than a lot of things. Are never going to be a problem, f really, not in the way that say like Napster or Limewire was. v vague dick about caliber. Mm-hmm. Uh no. No, no, no. Yeah. No, and I didn't I but I started listening to uh one of speaking of fresh air, w uh one of the like uh so many things that Max brought to me that ended up being great, I was like I'm not gonna watch a fucking reality show. that they continue to lean into. prom you know, m uh uh unlike most like literary erry a racket interviews, they actually talk about like the old work in context with the new stuff. So Taffy comes on. Oh God, she's so good.

Okay, now I know okay, I'm not gonna say that I know why Syracuse gets frustrated with me, but sometimes when I'm asking you a question, it's not it's just I'm asking you a question. Yes, yes. I would be so amazing. She's 11. Um, you know what? And you know what I mean? used to hire her older friends to just do like tiny bit. This was a thing made by many people, but it was conceived uh of by one person. But I've heard it said, I think by Andy, that they got Mike White for this project because I guess he's famous for writing really fast. And Mike White was the guy they wanted to get because he can write really fast and make it something that could be shot during COVID. It it's weird to compare it to School of Rock, but that is the only other thing I've seen by him that it's like, how did this get made?

Ned. From the first four episodes, this is w something that I love about a season or a series. feel like its own contained thing. But each episode is its own contained thing while being part of a series the same way there are like parts of a book. Oh, who's who's our dude? And over everybody's phone pops up, I think it's the word lie. vividly remember like my my summer of Law and Order SVU thinking there needs to be a way to show people communicate now. is period appropriate to 2016. Well y uh yes, but but I what I also love about their show that I forgot to mention is that it's This is how people felt about apps in twenty sixteen because it they make a gr great they make a great take great pains to be uh like Hillary, oh uh like at least There are MacBook Airs that is still have a light up back.

thinks about and is aware how part uh how just integral everything we think about and do is often related to a device now for better or worse, especially if you're a doctor or or or a public. Color my crystal. Yes. Oh well. Yes, by the women, but I uh maybe I'm projecting here. We did an active decoupling or something or conscious decoupling. Going to put off our this do by Friday challenge. like trying to not be snooty about like prestige TV and well-rated things. It's sad and then it's sad and then it's sad and it is funny, but like it's like and you feel for everybody in it, like Lizzie Kaplan, like everybody. cats have uh the classic the classic I was about to say that the cats are picky about the litter they use.

And it it's really, really fun. Like it's it just seemed like it was really your shit. Like they're so weird and generic. get a hand in picking the ads. And I'm just gonna read exactly what you wrote me. fun and if you can't make it fun make it short which is what Marco does. It is such a relative thing. What what what's on the thing? comes around and starts polishing my skirt about how much fucking money and boats they've got and all this and all that kind of stuff and I'm like, ugh, my tolerance for that is so low. Um, I I would like to think of myself as somebody who's like pretty humane and respectful, and I try not to jump to bad conclusions about people. Right? Good faith people in charge of revenue, good faith people in charge of journalism and reporting, good faith people in charge of opinions, and then a kind of the omnibus like good faith of an editor.

And ethical that the pieces don't talk to each other. with how he directed his organization I think there is something you do get into a kind of catch twenty two of like well either you knew about this and you're wicked or you did know about this and you're a terrible manager and maybe not very much. Oh let me wrap this up. The lower quarter of the barrel was what were called run-of-network ads, which are just ads that would run anywhere on the site, and in particular, they might have been purchased at a Just, you know, I'm I'm so tired. a local business. like fish in it and fish tanks that come out. Oh, I have not seen this. even know that your brain is affecting other people. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome.

And it says it'll say something like Sloane featuring little panties. improbably and I don't I doubt this is deception because I always assume good faith but like uh Sloan is my sloan and you guys should know better than to put little panties in there. I I wonder man, it's it's God, I I I wonder if you're kind of like grandfathered in and you're not you're not seeing as much Uh what's the name of the band? And to some extent you were like Max was so obsessed with Survivor. She I could hang with Taffy. Yes. Oh boy. for the New York Times. Screenplay is like you typed up the words in final draft. And uh it also means because I still don't know what it means. I'm like, what? Oh I know this. Yeah, losing losing losing losing her for that long.

I was gonna say that oh used to bullseye with his uh T16, so close. Uh but uh but but like yeah, but you can sell it like it's neat because it's I don't know, like another uh you know, style dads. you know, not the style she wanted to be accustomed to apartment he lives in. And I like to watch different things. I love this. And I am just always ready for a thing that shows that my life is falling apart and I'm poor. for DoorDash delivery. Oh. I highlighted that in our on our secret app. Like I know it sounds crazy to love an ad. Merlin said something funny or like, you know, uh didn't read the yellow text, and so therefore you you gotta give us another free ad. I think arguably the what Dan and I do, the bullshit Dan and I do with the same blessed advertisers that we tend to get over time, I think it's fun.

a minute or two of like introductory content and this is true on slate. not their job to listen to the podcasts. watch but I want I want all of it. journalists have to do the weird dance for even good what I think are uh g good sites. I think neither of us is a big fan of the word evil, right? And it has good ads. I mean look at the fucking evidence. And if you don't realize why you are in trouble, then uh You're probably the asshole. It it w yes. Spotify is one of my things. You're talking about here, this is um, what was that called? They're like the sales people right now of are the Omar of podcasting, like, oh the s the sales be coming and you j oh they're terrifying. Correct. in terms of the credits could be just, you know, I need this for whatever uh d documents uh interesting.

Not exactly the way the novel does parts as in broken into three sections or three parts? the it it is an adaptation not a redec recreation. And this show is what also what I love about adaptations where yeah, it's not beat for beat exactly what happens, although it is very similar. I guess theoretically. Oh, that is oh see, mm, don't wanna jump the challenge jellyfish. I'm an asshole. Well, a Willow Mean a Slate because of their deal with I think they're on Stitcher and the way that they put in the dynamic ads. And then you know what I mean? And this season is about IV slash prep and it ju uh like the the entire thing is about preppy clothing. You lose me, buddy. Are good at it, are s are starting to realize I'm not going to be able to control these ads the same way I'm not going to be able to control the ads on W it might be Alex is in trouble actually.

In our shared custody of Alex's post. Deleting playlists, removing playlists. I thought long form is just the thing that feeds into Instapaper. Oh, I mean it could be a a little of of b both. True, true. Yeah. And I w want Taffy to make more shows based on this. Him being able to look at Watson's phone and know about Harry. his non high ceiling department and like the their pictures are like appearing in his bathroom mirror. I think that uh anyone who has, after a breakup, gone onto the the apps as they're known for the first time. Um, but uh yes, and I will say uh in a in a form of conscious uncoupling, hey, just so you I'll be like just so you know, I'm taking off the Netflix ring title. The the yeah, n normally transport meat, not electronics.

Oh, that seems really easy and convenient to change and what a great time. No, it is out of uh necessity for the the good thing, as you called it. A very, very good episode from, I don't know, season five or six. You know, restaurant owners expect to tip twenty percent and they so they're like, mm, I don't need to worry about all of the ten percent, the ten percent. With the copy that we get, then then no, I'm sorry, that's so unkind. Ooh. It is extremely d it it is really d depressing. I think it is valuable to decide what you care a lot about and in the context of a changing world and changing economics and changing all of those things. increasingly the people whose work I care about, it is being uh t a lot of that control is being taken out of their hands.

Making you well, probably not pull out your hair because you have great hair, and I bet it you couldn't lose it if you tried. A combination of gaslighting and dunking? Yeah, that's not no, that's that's not selfish. That's where we have to take it take it to the gang uses the internet or whatever we call it. Can you hear me doing it on the side of my mouth? And now you've read the book upon which the Limited Hulu series by Taffy Bredeker Anchor. So that was what made me super excited. Oh yeah, I still have not seen it. It's not much it's not fun. Hello. I did use to have a crazy fucking job. And of course later on it comes back to bite him because he needs the waiter to like do something for him.

I think it's it's both. Network uh n There used to be a term where like like in the days of banner ads, you could buy different kinds of ads. I'm tinkering with my medicine. Alex fell asleep again, is it not? We don't talk about burns. I think I can fuck. They keep raising the prices and keep having more things that by contractual obligation has to have ads. Oh well you know he originally wanted them George originally I just started a blog about that one specific jawa. Yes. No, I don't I don't do comedy points. So you go to log in. Oh. It's so transparent. So you're not allowed to buy, you know, the theoretically, I guess, like the New York Times opinion page. It's okay. It's like there's no if you don't have a czar who cares about that gestalt, what do you expect to happen?

And I and and so um the and I'm sorry, I don't mean I'm not trying to be unkind. It's um writers interviewing other writers about a some new work they're doing and unlike most I want to adapt this my myself. Ned? But I want to give credit where due. And the the her her phrase, oh God, it's in the transcript, which I think I I think I added to notes. Tippy-toe lemon tree? But Thursday is my Thursday, but Thursday's Thursday's also kind of my Friday. Oh, but the highlights just keep getting better and better. Oh my god, can you believe the difference in writing a script versus writing a a feature for a magazine? Oh oh oh oh oh this that makes me very I've heard y'all You know what I like to say sometimes I propose nothing?

And there's a wonderful scene where um Lestr Lestrand is doing that press conference. And I'm fine with that. So Yes. But um tip coordination, yeah, exactly. I didn't know how much I hated most ads until I started to help make ads. Yep. Because it's the pizza you can't refuse. I got a nail gun, Alex. Little panties. Oh yeah, that's Greg. I mean I love that ability to take something from one medium, put it into another, and like keep the best of everything. God. I'm talking about like, I mean sometimes it's as easy as, oh, you just used some sketchy ATM that seemed weird to us. Done one of those. That guy fucking cares about the videos he makes. Yeah, even though I give four dollars a month fi to oh I thought that was supposed to make them go away.

And this is not a judgment on anybody who uses Spotify or does Spotify rap. I oh wait we should have a have a d uh a steroid challenge. Okay, that would be cool. And Mrs. It's like your principal having to talk to you for eight minutes before they swat you. Like the tone of the show and like, I mean my one word review for the first episode is God, it's just so sad. We but there is I do respect and honor the idea that a good faith Bananas. Alex. Yeah, no, no, no, no. I talked a lot, you run this. This is why my favorite of the Harry Potter films is The Prisoner of Azkaban, because it is not that much like the book, but it is an amazing And I always think of like mule design or somewhere like that.

Christian was the first uh yeah, yeah, they were the oh god they're. But I've been listen no spoilers too much. Isn't that just like the first thing? Hannah, get it, Hannah, Hannah. For a certain kind of bullshit. It's also like specialization and seg segmentation and like I I'm I'm not I I'm I'm I'm neither saying that everybody is performing this out of deliberate bad faith And then I like I yeah, so yesterday well last week you had a lot of good good uh very good pet photos. You drop it into caliber, you can save it as a Moby, you can save it as an EPUB, you can save it as an AZW, you can save it as a different PDF with different Oh, your brain. Like I I still don't fully understand all of this.

Coxman is in trouble. With very specific instructions now. Oh. It like had a ceiling, which is so weird. To be excited about the human liver and its ability to self-prepare. But I know that those ads weren't uh unlike uh s of a certain time You don't know the industry. I would call this namespace pollution. Uh he has a funny name. But yes, but mmm the grinder is the hookup app, not really a dating app. So but you you know, y there was a time where for a few years, maybe it was just me, maybe I'm suspicious, but I I was pulling a lot of those like Oh, great. Okay. So I don't think I'm not trying to criticize people. I I don't like seeing a zero added to the number of anything in my life is such a fucking mixed blessing.

I don't think there's a lot to be gained in life by just giving up and doing the shittiest thing you can imagine for a nickel. Well, let me put it this way. It's not 1991. I know don't get me wrong. Is that a given name? Kinda like kinda like good good good shows of all kinds used to be. Dursley. I like to call her because Yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't, I don't like this. And we don't know what the machine is yet, but we'll figure it out. He's got a beard and he's really annoying. Yes. There's a million things I'm not gonna do. I don't think this is an outlier for most people. And like sometimes it's clear and it's if it's if it sometimes sounds like I'm reading a hostage statement, it's because I'm not sure the people who wrote it care.

I'm not trying to cast an aspersion. Oh that's cool. I'm so I really hope that you watch the rest of the the the series. Oh, cause you kept bringing extra stuff, right? And I was trying to say it sounded like you wanted to say you're going to the store more. Wow, this is this is a good idea. But also like, you know what I mean? Elizabeth just says I'm working on seven things right now and I don't hate any of them, so I feel lucky. Is it good stuff? Alex. Get back on the Chinese wall. Yeah. Nobody picked those for you that cares about this show and they couldn't if they wanted to. Don Jr. And no shade, no lemonade, zero lemonade title. Is that a good hunch? Yes. Do you, as somebody who I get the sense that you love robots, right?

Yep. Story is like story by Larry Gaines. I was briefly banned from Uber and I'm I'm gonna tell my Uber story now. Have you been going have you been going back to the store? But like I I it is shocking to me sometimes how a fucking 30 minute it and it's got the Netflix problem where some of these 30 minute shows are really like one interesting idea stretched out to 35 minutes. Oh, you are in for a treat. You they have all different kinds of food. But they couldn't do what they do a priori. When I say incredible, I guess I mean entertaining is a dark dark way. I used to do screen grabs. I well maybe. You can't tell 'cause Greg looks like he's wearing a wig here. But that I I I I I was trying to make my help my make my goddamn family help me with this, but I feel like Max And and it's and it's got a a cute a cute little little alien.

The the Doctor Who guy that did Sherlock, Stephen? Would you please capture that? Um so so uh the thing the thing is like that you you go and you'll do that, but um we generally get the inst And there's an 18% tip added, and then you can choose to tip more. I've listened to it twice. If it just knows, oh, it's that fucking server in Santa Clara that Guardian uses. Like the people make but then but Planet Money will be like there'll be like uh this I was sponsored by blah blah blah, Rocket Mortgage or whatever. Here's the thing. You don't like this? That's all things I learned from listening to my um my Twitter girlfriend Taffy on a podcast. Um sometimes I avoid it because they're talking about something I haven't seen yet, but there's I think the w the run of the watch lately has been very good.

Ned something. We don't need to go into this, but let's just take it as read that one of the challenges of producing content, perhaps the greatest challenge over previous generations. So the point is in episode one, as Toby's exploring these exploring these Oh, so spoilers for Flashman is in trouble, go watch it, it's good. I did buy Clementines last night. I do, I do. Thank you. I H I y you're so fucking wild. Do you do you know do you know what a difference Apple Pay makes to the world if it's implemented well? Well, I'm glad you've economized on that, guys. They just get a hand in picking who sell sail sells them the ads. Did Daisy jump on you by the way? I I God I had such a great tweet last night and I deleted it because I thought it uh the tone's not right.

You lose me. I got a nail gun, Alex. The yes, I Oh man. Um it's a short. I'm only one episode in, but I love Solly so much and I just want Solly to be happy. Wouldn't that be a good idea? Yeah, yep, yep. But Andy Andy said, look, boy, Andy's had a lot of good insight lately about hard how hard it is to sell stuff, like as a writer or or a showrunner. When people say things like swipe right and swipe left, I have to mentally think about do you mean grabbing on the left and going to like everybody else like us from Insta Instacart? Like I I it just makes me sad that stuff I like gets shittier and shittier. Mm-hmm. The uh mm uh cocoa I like that girl. That seems like a guy on Spotify where he would say all of the sound loud rappers I've heard of.

Oh no no no it's a it's a complete it's a complete shit show. That's my Instagram is Instacart. That's a really that's a hat on a hat joke, but it's important in my Christmas process. Yes, well put. And I go, okay, fine, I do that. And God bless the the people on Instacart. And and I'm a pretty good tipper. You love to pimp the after sorry, you love to promote the after show that helps us have sustainable income. You know what I mean? That's what puts him in the class of like the David Brents and Michael Scotts and Jonah Ryan's of the world. And whether or not I'm getting all those details right, what I want to say is I just feel like an astonishing amount of advertising They just made an ad that uh maybe they did, but like it appears to be the identical ad.

They're the Sam Rothburgs of the world, which I you probably haven't gotten to that episode, but man, Sam Rothbard. Wait, wait. I can't. Anyway, I love you and I love your brain, and I I don't I never would want to. But it was on the season. Like you go back and you watch even like a super good movie like sneakers or you know hackers or whatever. And now she's disenchanted. Oh God, oh I uh um Matthew decoupled with me because he watched I Yeah, that amazing reunion episode where they called him on the carpet for calling Rodney's mother a whore and how horrible he was to all the women. Well I'm doing b I'm I'm doing I'm doing God's shouting. Some kind of special phrase. Because I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there with my dick in my hand for two days going like, uh, is Alex done anything?

But the guy who wrote the emo book. I uh like everything about this show. It's like an actual chapter from a book. That's fine. Jesus Christ, close the faucet. See? Hey, you know what? I fucking love that book. In one way or another, right? But like it's such a gift to be able to make the thing that you want to make and to be able to If it's annoying, I made it up. You mean like a radio show? People have to do a podcast to afford to be a journalist. But like he will always be the most A cooked up and B going through a divorce guy ever. And he's a he's a he's a grind and a tryhard. Well, the birth date is there as my DOB. But they're not treating you th that the people who are treating you like an asshole are not thinking about us.

Oh, what was the point of what we're saying? Yep, yep, yep. He piddled right now. Yes, hello. Oh god. That's what I that's the ad I want. Uh I have some notes along the way. Stephen Moffat. Yes. That's also a very popular thing. So one person in one case Jason Alexander is obviously tipping a lot more. I do want I do want to binge it. Yep. Oh that's terrific. I I wish that the people who w worked on Apple Music and and Apple Books, in fact, liked Sometimes they couldn't even afford to pay them or the the this duty quote couldn't afford to pay them. What's his name? Whoever first came up with that phrase or that tweet, that whatever observation that it was the way it was phrased was so perfect.

Oh, excuse me. How did this start out? Then guess what? And like I need to like like go look at the exact distinction. How are you gonna print that paper? If you care a lot personally about the stuff that you produce and the people who are allowed to love it, like you learn who to over service. Oh man, it's a tinkering g Are you tinkering with your medicine season? Have I not been I mean I have not be been a good computer. You can read aloud if you want, or you can read it yourself. What's that what's the name of that band? Have you ever watched White Lotus? Toby, get that girl a phone. So I am a good spouse in this one. I think ladies in New York spend a large amount of their time taking earrings on and off and taking high heels on and off from what I can tell.

I don't go to a grocery store anymore. Well, I just want to be clear on the main episode. The 18% and then plus add more. Yes. Here's the thing, Alex. It's not like Bob Mould on to talk about his first solo record, which I'll never forget. Like people die, things change, industries go upside down. Like, I need to like that's the only way I've been able to uh th think about like, okay, how do we I guess I I feel it makes me oh it's I love it so much. Mike White. Come on in guys. But what if you had to like hit somebody, beat the shit out of somebody with the rifle? We don't really care, but like we love to ignore people at scale, so we really turn it on. And like you never lose somebody. You know what I mean?

But like there have been times where like especially when you're traveling, we've talked about this, right? I'm not gonna riff, because if I do get clever about it, you're gonna get what in the industry is called a make good, and you're gonna say, meh. You don't have uh an anchor tenant as we used to call it. Yeah, yeah. But it's from the time back when challenges were still good. No, that now I want it to be. Ned's a funny name. Okay. And remind me about it in a second. You know, you could buy banner ads. Can you continue to grow and change and make the things that you would like? 9999% of the population, guess what, dude? Yep. No, I would say. David vs. I watched I watched Napoleon Dynamite's top ten from Letterman the other night.

I love it so much. Oh no, no, I I just was very excited uh for this show because it is a limited run series. I've got nothing interesting to say. Yeah, doing her her his swipes for him. I'm not I'm not worthy. Man, we will get to I don't want to jump the podcast sharp but Shark, but this challenge. Like the the the we uh often have uh beef tenderloin for our uh our Christmas uh dinner and that's the kind of thing we're like mom or me is gonna be pretty picky about getting the good one. That is a text to send someone. But my apparatus is insane. Are they the people in the the like first room? So there's like a story credit like in movies and TV, and maybe you know more about this than I do. Uh but they decided not to.

Doc uh Stephen Muffet. And um sorry Dan McCoy, I don't remember exactly the name. And and I was like, um I was like, Matthew, I am I am So substitutes substitutes will not. I don't skip ads on black check. I don't have an opinion one way or another, but that's an extremely challenging part. I don't need to know about your commitment to media. Do you remember him from the first season? Um is his name Hugh Longform? But yeah. I'm going to make Merlin's life even worse if I if I don't do this. Um the money stuff just leaves my head. Like back in the public radio days, it would have been the one minute thing that played before the news. Yes, yes. From like 1992 to 1995. Like what you can do all of that in caliber.

So she r uh I love how in the credits it does the thing where she's like, fuck it. Well, we both we might like different things from one another, but we always try to find a show we can watch together. No. There's so much shitty in-app ads I don't get with Guardian and Ditto with DAI location-based ads. And I love how I loved I loved everything she had to say in that aspect. Okay, well he's doing a thing. There are so many other people that will do that for you. I Oh wait, are we are uh I haven't listened yet. And then one week I j just uh oh no, I think it was like two weeks. I'll write it down for the after show. And for a while I even tried to contact Spotify, but it started happening so often.

And it turns out it's a ri it's a different Sloan. Oh, I don't know what that means. Yeah, yeah. I am back. Oh Eve's Killer. is the most going through a divorce guy of all time. So you're getting back into shopping carts, I think you said unless you change it later. I put that in notes too because I I don't know if I did read that. Those are teaching us that everything yeah, everything we make is a commodity that exists. And it's just it's not a bunch of like stock music, stock videos, and stock everything. And now we gotta hire a bunch of people, but then we've hired all these people and there's not enough work to keep them busy. Like I think about how many people's lives it is made miserable and like how many podcasts it's ruined.

And then if there's like there's this one guy, this guy I've told you about, this guy, Paul Bruno, no idea who this guy is, but he makes the most baller fucking playlists that are right up my alley. I am very much in the contingent of people who A has no interest in sport sports because B It was awful. Get up there. Um, and I I I don't know, I just uh I it it's annoying when it's like And they include phones that were still being used in 2016. Yes. Thank you. I have such a boner. Like that's not even part of their milieu. Why why? This point in the season when what you're playing for? The uh the the poop stuff. And it's real funny how many of the DAI ads that you run into Because it's not only repetitive, but it's annoying, like so much of my oeuvre.

Yes. And maybe that's why I like old 97s more than podcasts this week. But I like I like Marvin, but and increasingly the secret app. Goliath was a little bit more. But before we get to all the butt stuff and the do-it harder stuff, just him like being delighted with the fact that strange But I think he's also just excited that women he doesn't know find him attractive. You need to fix that shit. You've got to photograph the front and back of your state issued ID, and uh you've got to photograph the front and back of your credit card, and then you've got to solve the maze puzzle. Could you please capture that? But then I gotta go read about like what's involved in trying to get a house uh with a six-figure or seven-figure income.

So maybe clarify what what it is that that shows that I'm missing? I don't get to spend time with my family and I don't get to make what I used to make anymore because the industry has changed so much. And most of it is from PRX or Radiotopia, which is And it it it it's just ooh. Hey Alex, if people wanted to help support the uh the the important work that you did on the on the do by Friday program, we're gonna be able to do that. Caliber, right? I almost want to use Firefox. I want to see the ultimate competitors. Yeah, because he's a substitute teacher Yeah, he's like Jackbox roommate, right? That's what we say in my house now. Oh yeah, so anyway, do you find yourself I was trying to feed you.

I don't think you need to talk uh to Felix and Co. That's a very good hunch that I have. It's kind of rhyming dementia. We see this on Survivor. And and like and the thing is like the the all my different means and uh apparatuses that uh exist in my life enough said And I guess it means figuring out what the story is, what the beats of the story are. You write my sister! is always a divorce guy, even before um Toby Fleischmann was a wife guy, he he is a he was a wife guy. Oh. The things we need right this second and things where it matters to get the good one. And I'm not trying to be contradictory, except here's the problem. And I instantly recognized, for better or for worse, usually worse, how much I am Holden Caulfield.

I'm not trying to be unkind. Yes, income. They do catering. Spotify is so good at so much stuff. Greg got no hair mostly in uh wait listen. I got six hours to talk to Jeff about physics and robotics. But the point of the story is that uh they got the two kids, he's back in the game, and like this thing, like he's I'm guessing works a lot. I go through I've I've been through this so it's like the fraud calls from your She puts them in parking meters, she puts them in gas tanks, and I'm like, because, you know, my family hates me. No. Who was the fourth? But my my favorite my okay, let me see if I can do an impersonation. Even in that um I don't even want to say i interview, but in in the uh Disney jump on you when you were there?

It literally did not go through my mind until I am like looking at my tax panicky over like the last week. Like it just doesn't feel good to have to search for where I get software updates in order to get it. Do you ever see Napoleon Dynamite? Uh David versus Goliath. And a as Taffy has said in in interviews, um, I wrote this book because I wanted to make money and at the time that's how you made money and I needed to raise my kids. Uh you like on Mando or Andor you'll see like show was created by uh what, John Fevreau. Um he um and he made a reference to back in nineteen ninety-five when there was quote a guided by voices EP coming out every month. You know, she has according to John Syracuse, she's a she's a monster for having that beautiful child.

That's that's D you ever get that from DAI? Which is fine. Um Trash Theory on YouTube. Um cards is probably a little big to be called boutique, but boutique, when you're boutique, it's not like you're a one-person firm and it's not like you're a giant company. Cause again, I kept thinking about it would be so hard to clean that house. Mm-hmm Oh, you're sorry. Yeah, and this is the first time. Good job. I think there's a number one, I know there's a number two, and I know there's a number four. I I I'm pretty sure at this point that I am over tipping, but I feel bad if I don't. And I mean it's it's what it's what we used to call like I remember this is term I learned from David Siegel's wonderful uh re David Siegel had these two really good books about web design in the nineties that all of us cut our teeth on.

The one the one where you disappeared for for like a week. And it's like, oh no, wait, Alex isn't asleep. What's the band of the makeup club? It just drives me bonkers. Coming in there. Um Fleshman is in Trouble, which is based on a book by Taffy Brodecker Anchor. Just a tiny bit. And that's my Twitter girlfriend, Taffy. Marco has is so economical at doing a great job, way better job. Okay, good example. And it and it was yes, yes. I think that might be our first real actual season too. I think whatever he's taking now, it has a side effect of making very, very knobby, knotty veins. Backpack. Like no, we'll just watch it on Hulu. Zoscar Wild would say it feels like carelessness. Okay. You're saying you're saying that because this show takes place then that if I underst I'm sorry, I'm just clarifying because I didn't understand.

Wasn't that the deal? Like my mortgage I've had since I was twenty one that I have not paid. And I get that. I w I do wonder if that was an experiment. But what you're describing here is like, okay, I, you know, uh uh forgive me, I honestly don't mean this sound racist, but we just called a Chinese wall. Because like it's you start to feel like, okay, uh, sure, like Glenn Howerton, I imagine he does not Like, how do you feel when you're on a shovel blog, a max shovel blog, and see a sponsored post? I'm back to work, but I spent, really, if I'm being honest, close to an hour yesterday just organizing my playlists. As of last night, I have watched the first episode and I just want to ask you a question.

Pod? I really want to after that after I mean I followed her on Twitter for a long time, but I want to be friends with her specifically after that episode. It's not gonna be like you're on the eighth episode and you're like, shoo, that must be it. And like, you know what I mean though? In every way Matthew is is without peer and literally the greatest spouse in the world, but I get the feeling you get cheated on a lot with media, whereas you hold up Um but uh I think I tip pretty well, but this fella you But um but it's such a like a comp compact little like and it's well done. And no, we don't want like, you know, I don't know, uh, t-shirts for child molesters to be sponsoring um our big piece here.

You gotta do that. Oh boy. Like we do something like that with TV sometimes where usually I like because my wife goes to bed earlier than I do. Let me uh let's see. I love when they do that arithmetic in their head. Postman Dan, like so many men, especially men, in America, he thinks everybody's stupid. We we both tend to let go, okay, well that's actually technically a free pass. I have become a No, like I Oh, burst of vein, I'm dead. That was my compliment about Mandalorian. I needed them for my Christmas tree. Oh yeah, yeah, she for sure. Full points. You see what I'm saying? Yes. And she's fascinated with the backstory of Toby, you know, and and that stuff. In journalism, there is a bright red line between anything that involves making money, anything that involves news, and anything that mostly involves opinion.

And there and so here's the problem is like when they talk about whether it's Ronald Reagan with Iran Contra or whether it's Trump. I I will find it. Like, I mean this it it's got the like strange at least the very first episode I have people to do that. I wanna finish this goddamn stupid Drail. God bless them. After show or okay to guide two nights. But no matter what it is, we'll find a way to fuck this up for nickels. There's a lot of olive oil there. The people who replaced Iraglass are gone. Yeah. Because that is w like, oh god. If it's funny, it's Matty. I think it was ours uh well, we've been debating this in the house because I feel like it was Like to do that too slavishly. And you go through them and you gotta you gotta send them with But if you get the good litter, uh then that doesn't happen.

And they don't like the shows. Like there are sh like NPR shows where I'm like, is anybody keeping track of this? This is true in lots of places. You know what I mean? I want to be helpful and I want to be supportive, but selfishly, I also don't want to like blow two days on anxiety that could have gone to a different anxiety. Uh or we have to take it to there and it would be like both Matt and I would need to turn our key and say And and and Wednesday night is when that starts easing up and I can just go focus on mounting solar lights or whatever. I had no interest in watching Survivor. It's Oh, that's awesome. So that's that's I I really like seasons of shows that f Like and it's just puzzle pieces, puzzle pieces.

Steve Muffet? No, no, no. So see we we do everything with Instacart and that's why it's a species ending event whenever something goes wrong and God, that's like changing it on January first. Um so you were pointing out that I'm talking about money more than you. Like, but like, you know what? You think it's important to talk about money, you think it's important to talk about your brain? The what was ours called with the coxes? Are you watching Did you watch uh are you watching Andor? And I love the t-shirts, as I said on Twitter a little bit ago. Written by Thus and Such. I'm sorry, anyone named Ned. I uh fully endorse this series and uh i th this is not one of those things where it's like just trust me the first episode the first episode's great Um some of this is extremely ra a lot of this is extremely random.

Stephen Merritt, that's the guy from Magnetic Fields. Sorry. By the way, I still think about this every time I plug in my phone and I think, am I a terrible alcoholic because I can't plug my phone in, right? Do you find yourself going what you can get kibble for the cat? Don't you have a litter robot? We were talking on the Slack today about technology connections, uh a show that I'm very happy to support. And the answer is always it comes down to money, but it it also They've got one of those cool like Italian food little stores inside. Well that's the thing. But it but it is very, very well read. Lie, lie, lie. But anyway, so Instacart says, okay, can't do that, bud. Oh, I'm sorry, defector the uh publication the internet publication?

Hello, thank you so much for listening to Do By Friday. But you know, especially stuff like audience. Seventies music, eighties music, but like he'll have one called Make Out Club, which is a great song by um Okay, that's pretty good. The hosts don't I mean, forget even the hosts. I've been I've been a member for two years. That bugs me. Uh this is even before like a lot of targeting of any kind was going on. He talked about his love for 45s as a kid and like it was the first radio interview I'd ever heard with Bob Mould and it made me fall in love with fresh air. Because that actually just makes the script like keep finding the same thing over and over. What? Why did I make that assumption? Oh, isn't Sally so cute?

Like exactly? Is Uber didn't like you carrying all your cards equipment in their nice cars? They are they are champions. And I'm certainly not trying to get over my skis and imagining that I should have control over other people's motivations. Yeah. God, I hate little panties. No, no, no, no. Oh my god. They're tapping on the glass of the recording booth just to it's it's like I feel like I saw written by Credit, yeah. And so the script and story and written by don't all mean the same thing. But do you remember that when you watch Sherlock? That's how you know what's going on. And because I my default state is poor, title. I just want my Mologatani and I'm worried if I blacked out the wrong thing.

But uh so Larry, um, Marty, Marty Funkhauser, and Jeff and And then it becomes a big deal because uh the other people at the table in one of the episodes people won't Okay, I I just finished it a minute ago and my note here, this is not this is my private document, not our shared document. I might ask you to cut that. I mean the content of your more I mean that in the noun, like the regular old noun like we used to use it. Who wants a rotating swan in his entryway. Yeah, w it would usually the the goal to give me time to always before midnight. No, and I can't start my life. I just want to send you a funny photo. Pod. Welcome to the Scholastic Book Fair. Yeah. Ooh, check out those Clementines, if you know what I mean.

Oh, I'm spacing on it. Uh I don't skip ads. Grandma split that. You are talking about money more than I am uh talking about They couldn't do that if they were, for the sake of argument, Pizza Hut or Godfather's Pizza, if it exists. Well, godfathers to make ends meet decided that from now on, like from oh, so fucking sad Alex. Oh no, admin, let's uh please talk about weekly editing and release process because I can only assume I am just You have a whole house to to deal with. I watched a video the other night about how Quentin Tarantino had gotten help. You killed my niece! First principles. These are real apps and when this is also Yeah, and and because he is And also I want to end the I think I probably will We'll take and we'll take breaths.

That I got. We're currently watching a lot of old Survivor. Like these those people care about what they're doing. It's just a big fuck you to everybody. I can be persnickety about that. Tippy-toe, lemon tree. You get a book. Let me see if I can do it. I just call her Taffy and I pretend that we're friends. I'm like, oh shit, I it's oh oh Taffy. But like it's one of those shows where again like I'm always mentioning things like Edgar Wright movies where I'm like, ah, why can't there just be a few more things? But um, anyhow, and then eventually of course it says your account has been locked. You know what? And uh the thing is, we love our first responders and delivery drivers. Radio. Oh it might be.

Where like that accidentally got sorted into the Uh on not on wo unwound. Yeah. Like but I was like, no, they are showing that uh d she is the autor of this Yeah yeah. And I was like, that is such a good way to put it It's it's Coxman is in trouble. He does these great lists. Oh boy But like we will we lose that sometimes in this whole puzzle piece obsession with like I want to hear about Instacart with the good icon. And it's but I I feel the same way, but like I I think you know, I think I showed you that screen grab of uh a food delivery service where it wouldn't let me tip what I wanted to tip. Let's take let's just extend something I've said about lots of things. No, because just like this stuff, I I think it is important to talk about money and I think it's important to talk about The uh I I I'll save it for the after show, but Dougie has another new um like back end for I don't love my brain.

I long Longform is a thing where they curate Longform is? No, I BB eight is I mean R2 was like a big thing. You've read the book. Like I heard on the watch. It feels like it's one of those things I feel like, and this is such a snooty thing to say, something I'm really working on with Oh, because of who you are? I don't know how it works. And so I am to cover my own basis. That's not what you get from me. And I didn't realize Thursday was your Friday. Cochrane's the the OG of the OGs. And then why and like you still can't get your fucking like the your terrible, terrible children into the ninety second street. The It's a term everybody uses. That's a new Oh you prepared a bit. Like like is the Elon Musk of Insta Heart like I'm happy to share.

I hate it. And you know, it's not the job or rather, like the sales teams a lot of these companies hire, it's Did Daisy harassed Brian. Alex, look at the uh second item under uh under production notes in uh pre-flight, please. Um because the the uh it used to be No no no it's the worst. Then you can attach your Kindle and say, please put this on my Kindle. You know, biathlon. Muffet? It is uh all of the tech is absolutely just I I don't know. For for my old jobby job, we would often need to transport uh equipment You don't have like somebody who's responsible for sixty percent of your business. And it's like, oh my God, you're shouting at me. I uh it's like a a wild thing to again blame individuals for or using a service.

It's so frustrating to me that one of the things I'm great at in this fucking world is my apparatus and I can't discuss it. Oh boy. Streaming now in Hulu. Well, the and the show sh um showcases And I know it's not exactly exactly, but it's pretty much exactly. I'm like, it's gonna come off. Right. But uh but listen, there's a kind of cone filter for a Melita style I gotta send you their pizza boxes. Uh well yeah it it is and uh sometimes it might be called featuring little panties Oh okay. Pod. This is Do By Friday, a weekly challenge podcast with Alex Cox and Merlin Mann. She is I I I think a lot of listeners have probably read uh They don't listen to the shows. Then you get like two ads. It's like, okay, the money podcasts get this.

Yeah, but but and whenever I inter like and I do sort of interrogate people of Yeah. But uh uh uh and no, I and you c But look let's let's use one that I can uh just be a Let's say you get a PDF. And this is a show that could ha have been, you know, just I wish I had something prepared. Avery Avery Truffelman does not suck. So like all the lame ass pizza that was like left over from lunch was sitting under heat lamps and you could have like all you can eat shitty Godfather's pizza for like six dollars. Oh boy, I'm embarrassed. It is uh or at least And you're like, Yeah, quote, contractual free streaming service. This is very exciting. Everybody's listening to Lester and all their phones go off and they're all getting a message.

And yes, that eventually becomes way too much sex. I oh my God. This is you are in for very much heard. And like not only are they not stupid, but he is not as smart as he thinks. And they're they're digitally inserted ads for like local dry cleaners that somebody recorded on a gaming mic. I don't want to say that sounds cheap, but that doesn't sound like the most important thing. Oh my god. I have watched the first episode of the first season. Before it always involved a puzzle and water. No. Well you sure sounded like you did. Yes, yes. Hello. So you need to watch this with me Well and we we did no put this on the list, things that needed a name. Say you know would you capture another thing for me, please?

Isn't she awesome? Maybe, but the the main thing is that after like But the s but like that that was an actual chain in Florida. But like what oughtn't or needn't go upside down is your own sense of how well Let me let me find it. Yeah. This is it's so bad. I did not know that. Um I've listed and I uh Yeah, just so they have to keep their health insurance. Um Okay, but one of the great things, um oh no But the what this show this show doesn't do that. I do, but that that thing's a beast. No no no I am picky about the litter. And there was actually a time when I'm usually I'm I'm so happy when the shopper does math. And a different from a Holden Caulfield standpoint, a different but related kind of thing is like, who's the fucking captain of this ship?

I don't think. And when Roman Mars sold at 99% invisible to Sirius XM But what's the beauty of the boutique? And that's why it's like one of those radio ads. You ever hear that guy? I I I don't know. K kind of like how I think, or or at least I get the idea And uh and then they say I try to log in again. I I I'm pretty sure I know I do. Yeah, baby. But then his explanation was Yeah, I w I just music. No, no, no. My wife has read the book. And Sally's got a bathrobe with his name on it. I had to have the impending sets of doom for Don Corleone. I mean i they say that pretty ex explicitly because he's also a a fucking nerd. Um cheese don't even know what to complain about anymore. I never know I never know where it's gonna go.

Then it's also, guess what? She wrote a what was the the name of the article is And it makes me sad, not just because I'm like forward, fifteen seconds, forward, thirteen seconds, and then I have that muscle memory of how to fast forward through In the after show she said that. Is there somebody who cares about that as much as they care about like getting a bunch of what we used to call run-a-network ads? I tried to watch an episode of Survivor in like nineteen thirty five and it was bad. I mean remember Gus Van Sant remaking Psycho and it was like this is so interesting as an exercise and It's like Lego, like getting your Legos and your Duplo's together. Can you please read back to me before we return to the show?

I hate it. But sometimes I'll get like if I have it turned off, that'll be how I know. Um they about that it's incredibly unsettling. Okay? Alex isn't as well. Did you dig are you watching White Lotus? Like so many things like Bo Jack, like What's her name? Yeah, okay. Oh no, it's okay. We'll just talk about what we liked. But well that's andor, but it you know what it does have is uh is Ober and Martel. But the um but the um but it's hard to make using computers and devices look interesting. We'll draw a breath. That shame of like just the f I I hate putting my card in anything. Well, it is on this show because you will you go way out of your way to think and talk about money. Or I might see one that says Rush featuring Lil Panties I open a lot of stuff in the secret app if I know I'm gonna be highlighting it a lot.

Pod. Stephen Muffet. And the waiter's like, wait a minute, was there anything wrong with the service? And you know, email Alex if you disagree. But that is not a I'm a grown man. Um but the like I Oh my god, it's so funny. Those steroids would be amazing. Oh yes, yes, yes. Was like the each episode of Mandalorian seems to revel in the fact that it knows it's a good episode of TV. I mean, I guess you can lose a Clara Danes, you know. And at one point Lizzie isn't Lizzy Kaplan is like f flipping through I don't even know the terms for that Wasn't that isn't that kind of cool like it sets the tone for this show, that kind of sad, you know, going through a divorce guy. I think you gotta text um the uh There's some shows where I don't skip ads.

Like do you know what a fuck you that is? I'm a full-time fucking lifestyle holding Caulfield. Another one. And that will sometimes check in with me. I mean, again, like selfishly, it's because I had my own thing going on, but like a t I think they're very good. That's all in a folder called Paul Bruno now. Greg is fit. Yeah, I'm well I'm looking now at the end of the year. He's got that guy in the Castro steroid look at this point a little bit. When you c when you can C S but steroids make I So he was like, it was right place, right time. But like Marco's so good at that on ATP and especially under the radar. I'm happy to give you my money. I don't think John Roderick could off the top of his head tell you like what a lot of our sponsors are because he doesn't listen to podcasts.

Like, you know, Dave Davies can't even bother to show up anymore. No, no, no, no. Hang on, give me a second. It's a good funny name. Um, typing is boring to watch. Like the and like and like stuff like it's I love the fact that like remember My Christmas. But here's the thing. Wilhelmina yes. And then you get I guess presumably you get more ads. But like you could be a very talented person who just shows up, records three episodes of a show and never thinks about it again. Oh my god, we've got to talk about Well and uh no and and how your brain affects other people and when you don't The the I think He's got all those face tattoos. It's so good for music and but then I see that podcast tab. Is all I want to send you.

There's a story credit. Jeez. Hey, will you capture this real quick? It's a weekly challenge podcast with Alex Cock. Mm-hmm. I'm not trying to criticize few people for Um the the so Yeah. And I uh it it it also can depend on, you know, union and guild stuff. Whereas with Mandalorian, like each each episode of the first season is a really good self-contained story. Stephen Merchant. Oh I don't know. Or what you represent? And you can see where this is going if you enjoy the work of the extended Larry David universe. You know what I mean? Uh you can find this great line where she says, um, and yeah, what is it? Oh god. I hate it. Yes. Can you imagine having a kid in that house? No, this is this is important because uh Coxman is in trouble because That was that was like Good luck.

Love, love, love, love. You know, she's also the lady on uh Killing Eve. And uh it seems like I'm obsessed with health insurance. And first, before we get an ad, we're gonna have to sit through the thing that lets us know there's gonna be an ad. Mm-hmm. It's really important. Yes. And you can care. Um but you um but uh yeah, it it it it is frustrating because like it's But there's a lot of stuff in the world that is not evil. We will put that in notes and I will start listening to that. But what you get from me is a thousand percent me for better or for worse. Every Friday you have to find release radar. Streaming now on New Episodes Thursdays. Really helps the pod. But sales told us to sales has a gun.

If you just want to go well then let's let's call let's call in Chris Farley mode. But and all the press are sitting there listening to Lestrand and then you hear beep beep beep beep beep. Oh well, I mean the problem now is this whole episode I I know, because they're yeah, I think they're too they're too fancy for that. And like it doesn't mean you have to make like terrible shit and then turn your head and go, well, yeah, I didn't notice that. I have had to accept that like with television shows. Is this the one that it has a lot of Well, let's just say as of a few weeks ago, I used to do a lot more of it. Oh, it's an open source thing. You don't need to love your brain. I can't, I don't all I know is Jennifer Coolidge.

Well not after show faucet. Um let's see. Um I will find this for notes, notes, notes. There's those kinds of things. I hope they can do it. One of the things that at least that uh Andy, right? Yeah, it's like are you back on hinge or are you back on Mm-hmm. Like w the a So replacing one box of number four coffee filters with two boxes of number two coffee filters. That guy who does those like new British Canon videos I'm obsessed with. And that bums my head And like I could find it and add it for nuts, nuts, nuts. Like I will stand alone in how much I love Spotify for music. I mean, I have tried and true methods for dealing with these kinds of problems. I steroided too hard. Well the thing is it it could be uh separate things and it could also be the exact same thing.

Podcasts are the substack of NPR. I think it was called designing websites or something like that. Like This place is great. Like I when he was on to talk about Black Sheets of Rain. It's not I'm no, I'm just I'm just curious though. Alex is in trouble. Nope, nope, nope. So many good t-shirts in this show. See I can't do bits. You gotta go go to your email because apparently they're learning from defector. Okay, this so this literally only happened ever one time. She's a little bit more. I hate it. Like, it's okay if it's longer than forty minutes, you guys. And I guess that's a good thing. Well, I'm a guy who has mostly I can't continue my life. Unfortunately I can't Yes Where's Alex? Biathlon's a great sport.

Challenge Ticket ticket digit diggit ticket ticket challenge This week's challenge was to watch Yeah, I'm not sure. I'll say it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's that. What what what do you uh what do you what do you do when you go to the store? And like in the very infancy of that, I don't remember all the terms, but you could for example get man back when it was just mostly like Yahoo style banner ads. So if there wasn't a good ad here, just run this X10. And the image on YouTube shows that this is uh is called the one and it says here two hundred and ninety five million dollars. Tiny's husband, Greg. I want his terrible sister to be happy too. You've both indicated to me you know what's up with Claire Danes.

Yep. Oh god's the sound of so many people with anxiety literally shitting themselves. And like no ma I don't care how happy he is, he's got a girlfriend, like she's she's puffy in all the right places. It's almost like a tell yes. Um people. You seem to be I know I know that ads make money, that's why I have them on my shows. I find that particular just as a superclass, I find that particular kind of bullshit really hard to deal with. Wednesday's my Thursday. Just give me a second. Vernon Dursley I like to say that We could do that. You've been talking for But the Matrix found a way to make typing look interesting because it used like a fake terminal with green letters in a in a cool shape. Um If I were hustling, if I were brand new if all the things that the score against you Believe it or not, I know this is gonna sound very shocking, but there's a lot of stuff that I do that y'all don't know about.

Good, good pet photos. Well did you ever do counting knot? Benedict Cumberdisch. And like I just thought that was so stylish and fun as a way to show that Toby, who's so sad We've got one that's theoretically for people who are making a pot of coffee, but you know, my wife's a monster and she makes a lot of coffee, so I gotta keep her Like if you got one of the like the one out well, I don't know, maybe they're trying they're probably trying stuff. Like I I maybe that's obvious, and yet look at the evidence. I like and I look though that's an extreme example because like boy, that's a lot of debt to service for somebody who doesn't have a way to make money. I can live with that. I'll allow it.

This was in like the true fugue state, LX no memory. It's so bad. I I had a How to know whether you're the most popular guy in your high school or something like that. Did you hear that? And uh, you know, remember he's doing a press conference about the uh was it uh the the Uh uh no no more than well but Is of the brilliant comic characters who we love to watch. People buy it. This place in West Portal called Little Original Joe's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Fleshman is in trouble. Oh no, no. So what had happened was I ordered something. And then it's also in boss so I don't so I don't as a fifty-six year old man, happy birthday to me. Number four is a size. And then you've got a pre-roll, because the pre-rolls are where the dough is, supposedly.

What? But like the pieces, it's on the one hand, it's valuable You have me to love your brain. Um and Oh, oh, I thought you were talking about I can't just jump into season three of this. No, I three two Anyway, whatever. I you know what I do love though? And and that is a place that deeply cares about what their listeners It's like important information for people in your area. Uh I don't I don't remember. Like it's What are they called? I should learn more about that. But you read the you read the book and enjoyed it, yes. And you're like, no, there's ten, no, there's twelve. Craig Mason used this, all the showrunners in particular used this phrase while we were breaking the story. Oh gotta really talk about Triangle of Sadness.

Well yes, but not not that not because of the queerness, because I want the multi cat, low dust, high density litter. And I'm not I'm not trying to like cover myself in glory or steal valor, but like I mean uh I might be missing And like you know, to try and actually hire people Hey everybody, hey everybody don't listen for a second, Alex. I would swipe in whatever direction to get those Clementines. I think that's a big part of it. If that was you, they text you, they say if that was you, just hit yes. Anyways, the point was you you go into the shopping cart again? Let's go. They they they they're gonna eat at the golf course. It gave me so much more insight. But if somebody This is where I want to be careful about not Is it posted?

Is Alex okay? Friday. I really I still I feel like Syracuse at this point. But but I don't w I don't want to. Um but he wanted them to be like rats. There are multiple headphone jacks. Neologism? Well you know technically my birth date appears in four locations on here It can handle anything. The pop culture podcasts get this. Uh a word that he uses a lot, that's a very English word that I've started adopting. Just give you a minute with that. We should get a special uh phrase. But There's a often like a is screenplay Hey, spoiler alert, in California, your ID uh expires on your birthday date. You can make good ads. Brian Hamilton. They do it all and they're they're really cool. I will share it with you.

Where is Alex? But the one that fucking kills me. Adore. Okay, okay. Solly sure for Solomon, probably. Oh, because it was made so fast. Could you read back to me all the things you've captured? It's pronounced slate. I see Charlie in his little panties. Don't need a reason. But the problem is there's already an episode of the Slate Money podcast Nobody loved this. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Um do you remember when Star Wars on the fucking brain. But like for a going through a divorce guy who's been out of the game, like they were together what, at least ten years, I guess, probably, right? I wanted to say jump the shark and it's like what's uh I really I honestly never know what I'm getting into.

What I'm trying to say here is I'm saying I'm not asking everybody to be like me, but I know. I Um, guy two nights ago who just raised the bar. But the, I don't know if it was the bottom of the barrel, but Okay, here it is, and I'm also putting in Um Uh So you haven't met the gays yet. Let's go. I got a little crush on her. It's fine in the way that the LG Ultra fine was fine. Is it in the folder? Especially It seemed to throw up its hands. I mean the salespeople often don't And it's like, uh, nobody loved that ad. It's not rushed, but that's an effective ad because you're there for a 30 minute show and The phrase Felix I think was searching for is shabby chic. You I can't finish Well Thursday's my Thursday.

Unrest. Fall over like a turtle though. But you don't do you don't hate like a cute robot? Oh, it's basically apps. And I think I like the fact that your tap is wide open whether you want it to be or not. Oh my god. Or maybe I'm just way out of touch in what people will tolerate. That is and it's not their job to thinking about us. Um it's the pizza you can't refuse But anyways, what was there a way to close this? It's a weird sport. Backpacks outside No, it was Supposedly. But I I do kind of love the idea of saying, like, hey, we this this is content. Uh Alex, everyone has too much sex. I'm pretty sure you're the person who What? And It's a TV show, limited series on village. It's not fun to watch people.

Christmas hasn't begun until the Christmas is a process that we all have. The stairs the stairs are Remember the My tolerance for somebody who thinks they're pulling off. I know I'm shouting at you, but that's part of my I just run it through D script, look for notes, prep all that stuff. Yep, yep. I've now broken down and finally created one called Spotify Dash Created. Oh I don't remember. It is They're all getting the exact identical message from Sherlock. Um when Toby's exploring the dating apps and he's walking around And this app is this portal into a world outside of his his dreary. I'm real weird about it. Like, you know, you're not allowed to give yourself a nickname. What is Friday?

Yeah. I am very excited. Like I haven't we only we've only briefly seen Claire Danes running around putting shoes on and off It goes, your elastic thing was we canceled your last order. I I had not dr drawn all of that in quite a sh such a sharp way. You're young, like you're hustling, you're doing all this stuff, you'll do anything you can. Yeah We officially, you know, what was it Gwyneth said? Please contact Because I never remember where it is. I'm sympathetic. There there are three parts of Fleischman is in trouble and so far it is hitting those beats. What? I don't always feel great about it. Wickedness. Twitter's ads are so fucking bad right now Like I said, fresh air has become a show about like who died this week Unrest.

Sure, act like I don't though. I don't know if that's true. It's not that interesting of a story, but I know this. Uh you know what we should do, Alex? One of the dumbest concepts Cumberdish Bumble match? Hmm. Publication where I have never been logged in. Turn it to your left. It can they aren't a circle. Uh was to watch uh and and and put the codicles of our That it the show does take place then and that the state of the apps and how people deal with them Like I get weird casino ads inside speed tests and I go, oops, I must have turned off Guardian. I think our master class ad yesterday is fun. Fine. Although probably you, right? Biathlon, you ski Mm-hmm. Well but also I just want that to be so super clear.

Not a huge crush, but a little crush. I don't know what's happening. Hello You've never seen so many phonies in your whole life. But the phrase he used that I first heard from him was a boutique. Not usually Okay. Let's say you don't even fucking care. I don't know what this is called. That's a terrible name for a pub. I don't know why. You know what? Like you I I can't promise that's exact. That's Tanya. But you get Christian too! But then there's real rats, there's womp rats, there's real womp rats. Don Donald Trump Jr. I would uh I would like to know because I think it is important. God, please stop you guys. Terrible name. Important information for people in your area Oh my god. Um and supposedly, I don't I can't vet this.

Yeah. And Larry's like, no, no. I am so happy to give them money because I love what they do and I feel good about patronizing. Well, I don't know about you guys, but for me, Friday is release radar. But but the thing oh man Are you a shopper? So what but what I am trying to say is that you personally Alex is at the park. Do you know who Greg is? There's nothing to judge. She's in a tough situation. So I will sometimes listen in to the ads and I'm like oof Right? Let's leave it there for now. The Indy Rock guy. It was just like Turn it to your left and that'll make the water go slower. This is covered in an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm to great effect. And it's a whole episode about this golf course.

But they have Jesse Thorne syndrome. The part that bums me out though is where like there does seem to be Tuesday as I declared yesterday on back to work. This is not a spoiler. Don't bring a stick to a mountain fight. I'm sure Gray's Anatomy really needs to be. Wow. I really want to get past this. Um It sounds like somebody on Fiverr Um and it makes me I agree. When you hear that doesn't always mean this, but one reason we ought to stop saying things like Like I am I like to keep my card in my pants. It needs to stop. God damn it, why is it And the people who And I'm not trying to say that's what you should do. So many things I learned this morning. Isn't that part of the problem? But more saliently for our discussion here, he's totally not pulling.

Boy, there's a lot of old 97s in here. Um and uh so part of that Uh there's chapters, but there's also part one, part two, but part three. Hmm. I agree. I'm happy to think about this question if you actually want the answer. But um their their pizza's great and I love when a show does that. You're behind our broadcast. Another side note is that we should get a new And now anytime you want to do anything, you gotta go to email. I have a big, big you'll you'll have to f I'm I would call this Do you know Tanya's husband Greg is? The thing well I'm gonna do it. It takes It's an affliction. But I love Spotify for music, but there are some funny anomalous things. If you're hungry, it was great. She's 11.

You could've True. You're just another person who like You have to write a novel to be able to afford to like write This jaw was in Mandalorian, just so you know. And often Had the naked gay man hiding in the trees. I know it's got a lighthouse and it's something. Why? And I like Yes Are is are we doing bits now? And you c uh And then you'll have like the That was totally anomaly. Oh god. Right, no, sorry. But like I I have a question for you in a minute about the apps. Oh, that was evil. Solly. , but I think it was She said, The money stuff just leaves my head. You get Christian, the OG. And yet as I sit here, I got one thing to say about this entire thing, Alex. Came out recently. We're both gonna go into Chris Farley mode.

We only go to the grocery store for Not true. That's my bird. Uh Oh Lord. I I imagine there's all kinds of stuff in those apps. Okay. I love when a show that It's It's fine. Yes, it is. They can it's often a van diagram. I'm I'm here because Uh not true. That actor, man. I'm protesting the 18%. Yeah. But like the if you like a band called Sloane You know what I mean? I if so I can't go out and buy a little Like I I think you can make an ad f He's got some thick ass veins. Because you gotta get special dust for the robot, right? You're somewhere in between. No, I'm not gonna go hang out in a discourse. But um but the um I have a very low tolerance. Wait, uh Tony Gilroy. Tuesday is my Thursday j You get a new one a week.

Oh see I yeah, I I I get a clean. You know that term? Um But Oh my God! We do make this. You got shit to do. This goes back to the Oh You know what I'm saying? Which I feel like we've And Love that. And Star Wars. Yeah. Fine. I love Christian so much. In particular. And The LG's fine. raw transcript